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one realizes very quickly we've been

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I had access to to all those programs

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thank you

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surfaces no obvious signs of propulsion

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and yet this object is witnessed Now by

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four separate individuals in two

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separate aircraft

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what is up everybody welcome back

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welcome back to the disclosure team show

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the podcast the YouTube channel whatever

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you want to call it I'm so happy to be

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here I've been indulging in the

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Christmas festivities with my family

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this week this is my final interview

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Before Christmas day so

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um it couldn't be any bare I'm going to

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be here with one of my my good friends

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Mr Ashley Cowie we're going to be

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discussing phenomenology kind of

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touching upon a little bit of what we

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did earlier in the year for season one

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but really gonna be gonna be digging

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into season two and what we're going to

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be looking into come April 2023 the trip

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is booked it's going to be super

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exciting it's going to be another

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adventure and yeah so

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think I've got everything ready I'm

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having a drink it is Christmas after all

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um happy Christmas to everybody

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here in the live chat it's so good to

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see you guys and yeah as always for

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anybody here just keep the chat cool

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calm and collected

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and be respectful of any differences of

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opinion and all that good stuff

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so yeah I think that's pretty much it

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um like I said this is going to be a

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really awesome conversation we've got a

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few things to announce and I hope you

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guys enjoy it

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um your questions as always please pop

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them in capital letters

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um I will see them better that way but

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um welcome back to the show

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the boss the big man missed the

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phenomenology himself my good friend and

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colleague Ashley Cowie

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there he is my goodness how long did

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that take I was painful Vinny no good

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idea it was very different from last

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year isn't it before we kind of knew

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what to expect before season one and the

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first time of me being out there but uh

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here we are a year on can you believe it

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it's almost a year to the day that we

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kind of did the first interview and we

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were preparing for me and Dan and the

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rest of the team to all fly out and meet

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in Colombia so wow it's been a crazy

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the imagination for you know being here

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for four or five years and hearing all

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about these

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anomalous lights associated with this

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hill lapena de wica and then bringing it

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into some sort of visual format that

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it's satisfying to say the least and to

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think now that we've got season two

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coming you know that's just righteous

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the best experiences of my life

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the I should say there were you know

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three for the three years prior to us

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filming last year we had taken people

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here and filmed sort of archaeological

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private and online and we had Discovery

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create this or not to create but to be

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filming it and having a purpose and a

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homesick I miss the voices the accents

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that I liked the crack in the UK

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crazy ride but that's a bit you know the

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of going past season one

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this was never about being a

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money-making scheme this came out of

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to put out something that we felt was on

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the format that that we see all the time

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so give me your perspective on that kind

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reception was like to the side let's

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meltdown right it was called the great

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the top of the mountain whether

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it what they are let's leave out of this

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what you call a UAP golf but you've got

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phenomenology is much more than just a

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UFO documentary we don't talk about UFOs

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a 400 year old anomalous light

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phenomenon that's been reported in the

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mountain for at least 400 years today

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while that light phenomenons reported as

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things for UFOs as such we're looking

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lights all right they were up to the

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last 60 years where they've been talked

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of as UFOs and now UAP so it's it's much

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broader than UFO show so it was received

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really well and um there's people for

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terms what it's done is it cleared costs

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much this all costs sure and and to have

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that there's a lot of competition a lot

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of junk out there selling really cheap

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essentially now Eight Episodes you know

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half hour about on average of media

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but you know we don't have a big

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marketing budget this is a Grassroots

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that come here and as they say they get

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to see the back end of the country that

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a a back country Columbia Tour all

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expenses you'd be paying five thousand

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dollars plus and we got to see the real

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Colombia but you'd pay five grand for

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where we stayed oh absolutely I mean we

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colonial style now that route we had

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the organizing but you said it you have

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to be prepared for being absolutely

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buggered at the end of the day and

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having no shower or a cold shower but

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the soup will be great right it's it's

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got extremes we do live

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mountain right a very cold one the Andes

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it's in constant motion

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electricity the gas is out every second

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probably two or three times a week

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everything's in motion with Dre wet

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terrain can swell 10 meters of a

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difference in the course of two or three

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months we're going to come back to that

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was just talking about there absolutely

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man and I suppose listen for anybody

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that may be hearing this for the first

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time whether it be here on YouTube or on

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Could you give us like a two or three

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minute breakdown of what the phenomena

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in the area of uh tenho and tabio that

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we ex that we investigated just give us

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that small kind of sound bite of what it

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is if you don't mind of course so I've

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got to start this safe with the term

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local Traditions maintain it's like the

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start of an episode of into Ancient

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Aliens right but local Traditions

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maintain

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thorough and one can Google this as I'm

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talking about it the terms and the

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places

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in 1606 or 1608 the first Bishop of the

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village of tabio

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baptized the hill La Pena de wika as El

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dancing lights

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prior to the Spanish arriving

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the moist is the indigenous culture of

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area of Colombia they called the hill La

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Puerta de los diosis the door of the

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Gods

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and the reason it was called the hell of

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dancing lights and prior to that the

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door of the Gods is because

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people have reported seeing light

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phenomenon in the air surrounding the

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top of the mountain

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and also on the hell line between tabio

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and the hilltop tabio of course been

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built around geothermal puzzles they

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call them or Wells I mean there's a Zeba

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or the rulers thermal baths are in Tabu

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so there's a mountain here which will

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last at least the last four or eight

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hundred years has been associated with

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dancing lights so

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as far as the actual phenomenon is

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concerned the oldest known record of it

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they were called

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Las ranchitas luminados which is the

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glowing houses because they're reported

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in the shape of a heart the glowing huts

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they they've been called the Mohan and

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the mohana representing male and female

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energies or mythological Spirits a sort

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of intermediate stage between the

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moiscus death and its return as an

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animal form of the Mohan

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the pink Lights of the mohana the blue

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lights are called the Mohan

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so in a nutshell the phenomenon sort of

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there is no such thing as the phenomenon

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it is these phenomena

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are I represent you know a different a

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bunch of different kind of light or

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plasma

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um

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eyewitness accounts ranging from classic

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oval-shaped Golden Balls

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to Sprite like blue and pink lights that

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interact in the air swirl around each

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other and then disappear into the

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mountain that's quite a big tradition

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here

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um and of course all of these light

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phenomenon and the areas on the mountain

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associated with where the Mohan and the

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mohana unite are also associated with

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guacas now guacas

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are indigenous burials with the zebas

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and the kazakis of the indigenous

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cultures were buried with the gold

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silver and copper

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now there are guaca rose who look for

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these Graves and they claim to follow

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the likes of where they see the lights

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they can tell if it's blue it's copper

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if it's a yellow orangey by it's gold

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and if it's more of a white grainy light

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it's going to be silver

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and you know these guacarus shed

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hundreds of tons of artifacts a year

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from Colombia too

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the the illegal black market around the

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world though what's cool let's go

342
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skeptic for a second here the skeptic

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wouldn't say it's a load of balls right

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These Guys these guacuras are not seeing

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lights what they do is they have an

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intrinsic inherited knowledge of the the

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farms and of The Tiara the soil so when

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they scan along a farm at night with

349
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their torches they can see dark and

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lighter soils and they know where it's

351
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being turned therefore where someone

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might have been buried and what they do

353
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is they maintain this tradition of how

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we follow the lights keeps the check

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coming right it's a really and it's a

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thing so do the guacaros follow lights

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or not and this mountain is associated

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with guacarus who go up there and they

359
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use explosives and they look for

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indigenous burials so the phenomenon or

361
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the phenomena of the Columbia

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um of La Pena dwica since the arrival of

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the Spaniards has been interpreted as

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The Souls of saints local Traditions say

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the blue represents Thomas red

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represents Saint

367
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um the Maria

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no so there's a wretch and thorough set

369
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of traditions when I arrived here seven

370
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years ago I was reading all this and

371
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hearing all this and thinking to myself

372
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what an amazing story to tell because

373
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what's safe about it is I'm not saying I

374
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see the things flying around in the sky

375
00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,860
but everybody around me is and you know

376
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what happens funny when you say suggest

377
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to someone it's climatological or

378
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meteorological and it's not a spirit

379
00:15:56,930 --> 00:15:54,839
they look at you oddly and they look

380
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around and quite feel quite sorry for us

381
00:16:03,170 --> 00:16:00,180
for not being able to see right

382
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yeah absolutely I mean you know since

383
00:16:09,290 --> 00:16:05,459
coming back well from witnessing what I

384
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witnessed in season one so now I've

385
00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:12,060
obviously done numerous podcasts and

386
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spoken to numerous people about what I

387
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:15,199
saw and

388
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you know when I came out there I was the

389
00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:20,100
UFO guy let's say and you were you you

390
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said yourself that you were quite

391
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,180
surprised at how skeptical I was and how

392
00:16:28,689 --> 00:16:26,880
cautious I was about judging everything

393
00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:28,699
that I saw and

394
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let's just say recently in the last few

395
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days I

396
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I was misinterpreted in a way that I

397
00:16:43,009 --> 00:16:39,420
believe that the entire phenomena the

398
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UFO phenomena is prosaic based on things

399
00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:45,300
that appear in these mountains and I

400
00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:46,860
think you know just because I talk about

401
00:16:51,949 --> 00:16:49,440
my investigations in into what we did in

402
00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:51,959
Colombia that I think there is a

403
00:16:56,269 --> 00:16:54,240
possible prosaic explanation to a a

404
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still very rare

405
00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:58,980
phenomena maybe an earthlight phenomena

406
00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,480
that you know I could easily be

407
00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:01,920
misinterpreted to think that this is

408
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,079
what I believe can you know on the whole

409
00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:06,720
big picture of UFOs and I'll state right

410
00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:09,240
now that um that's not the case you know

411
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,540
obviously the phenomena the phenomenon

412
00:17:18,590 --> 00:17:15,360
and all the things in between are very

413
00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:18,600
different no matter where you go so

414
00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:20,819
um but we're not I'm not done with that

415
00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:22,919
because he can ask you about that please

416
00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:27,540
yeah please do man right so what then to

417
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,500
you

418
00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:30,960
is the phenomenon and or the phenomena

419
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,540
of the taboo 10 whole value you tell me

420
00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:35,520
what you think it might be having

421
00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:37,260
explored it

422
00:17:40,909 --> 00:17:39,240
and I think going into the

423
00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:40,919
investigations and spending the two

424
00:17:45,409 --> 00:17:43,140
weeks the way we did interviewing so

425
00:17:48,890 --> 00:17:45,419
many local indigenous folk talking about

426
00:17:51,169 --> 00:17:48,900
UFOs talking about spirits and Souls of

427
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,179
the moisture tribe who had committed

428
00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:53,280
suicide and this was them entering

429
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:55,080
another realm or whatever it was you

430
00:17:58,490 --> 00:17:56,520
know you know I took all of those

431
00:18:00,409 --> 00:17:58,500
different things on board but tried to

432
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:00,419
keep a rational mind at the same time

433
00:18:07,549 --> 00:18:02,640
and

434
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,559
since I left Colombia back in you know

435
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:09,840
the end of February of 2022 and here we

436
00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,299
are almost a year later doing so much

437
00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:15,360
research into similar light phenomena I

438
00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:17,880
my direction I'm not going to say my

439
00:18:21,529 --> 00:18:19,380
belief because I don't like the word

440
00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:21,539
belief but my direction is more on that

441
00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:26,400
this could probably represent a strange

442
00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:29,820
um Earth Light made up of the magnetic

443
00:18:34,669 --> 00:18:32,700
makeup of the the two peaks that form

444
00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:34,679
some kind of high intensity energy

445
00:18:40,669 --> 00:18:38,220
plasma that is very little little is on

446
00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:40,679
little is known about it that it could

447
00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:43,500
be really big for science forget UFOs

448
00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:45,059
and everything no matter what this if

449
00:18:49,070 --> 00:18:46,860
this turned out to be prosaic it's still

450
00:18:50,810 --> 00:18:49,080
a huge discovery

451
00:18:54,289 --> 00:18:50,820
okay

452
00:18:57,230 --> 00:18:54,299
so so no I think that's great so then my

453
00:18:59,210 --> 00:18:57,240
next question must be

454
00:19:01,250 --> 00:18:59,220
why would you have to feel you like you

455
00:19:03,169 --> 00:19:01,260
have to justify yourself for offering

456
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:03,179
prosaic explanations to UFOs you know

457
00:19:08,289 --> 00:19:04,799
what's happened here let's be clear I

458
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:08,299
think in my opinion or my opinion

459
00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:11,760
10 years ago it was a marginal fraction

460
00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:13,620
of society that would actually open

461
00:19:18,409 --> 00:19:16,380
publicly admit they believed in UFOs or

462
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,419
visitors from another planet

463
00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:21,120
because there's been such a swell in the

464
00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:22,740
median and pop culture in the last five

465
00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:26,160
or eight years especially since 217 219.

466
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,679
there's a tendency for people to openly

467
00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:30,480
confess to believing in such things but

468
00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:32,520
however I don't think the shoe the

469
00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:35,820
person who demands prosaic or wants to

470
00:19:40,370 --> 00:19:38,520
wait on the safe side until that Smoking

471
00:19:42,169 --> 00:19:40,380
Gun of evidence appears is anything but

472
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:42,179
a rationalist and I think it's required

473
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:43,860
that you one shouldn't have to justify

474
00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:46,799
skepticism especially just now when

475
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,260
there's such a tilt towards believe

476
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:51,120
because let me just say this and my

477
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:52,559
goodness imagine we're not going to open

478
00:19:56,690 --> 00:19:54,000
this kind of worms

479
00:19:59,390 --> 00:19:56,700
but how many people wish they'd taken a

480
00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:59,400
skeptical side to some of the nonsense

481
00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:01,140
that were that is being unveiled in

482
00:20:05,690 --> 00:20:03,480
videos of people appearing in court and

483
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:05,700
stuff from indictments from the UFO

484
00:20:09,529 --> 00:20:07,799
Community I think there's never been a

485
00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:09,539
more important time for people to be

486
00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:12,179
skeptical and to look down and inwards

487
00:20:18,049 --> 00:20:14,360
towards these mountains as you say is

488
00:20:19,970 --> 00:20:18,059
possibly the keepers of I hate to use

489
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,980
the word bizarre climatology because

490
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:21,600
that just sounds hockey out of going

491
00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:24,720
from space ghosts and Ghouls and UFOs to

492
00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:28,140
bizarre climatology however

493
00:20:32,510 --> 00:20:30,660
let's I like to do this because I think

494
00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:32,520
it makes I think it takes the Whole

495
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:34,380
Thing Down to Earth and leaves a big

496
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:37,919
space for things we don't know right

497
00:20:43,010 --> 00:20:40,200
let's say Project Blue Book in its

498
00:20:45,549 --> 00:20:43,020
conclusion was correct right and it's a

499
00:20:49,250 --> 00:20:45,559
swamp gas let's just assume for a moment

500
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,260
it's a lot of its swamp yes right so the

501
00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:51,120
Bogota Savannah that we're on right here

502
00:20:57,049 --> 00:20:54,600
was a swamp for at least 30 000 years

503
00:21:00,650 --> 00:20:57,059
since Lake Humboldt receded in the

504
00:21:03,529 --> 00:21:00,660
Spaniards arrived so wow we might have

505
00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:03,539
and a chance of photographing swamp gas

506
00:21:07,370 --> 00:21:05,880
or filming swamp gas phenomenon wouldn't

507
00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:07,380
that be incredible since it's not been

508
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,940
done before

509
00:21:14,810 --> 00:21:10,559
now the other thing that I think is

510
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,820
wonderful here is our so hestallen

511
00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:17,280
Valley in Norway there was a hypothesis

512
00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:19,740
submitted about 2014 called the battery

513
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:22,679
hypothesis where yeah

514
00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:25,440
one man two imagine two mountain ranges

515
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:27,960
with the valley in the middle one is

516
00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:30,480
zinc one is iron one is negative one is

517
00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:32,580
positive so the claim that was

518
00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:34,620
postulated was

519
00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:36,780
it under certain climate logic

520
00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:39,179
climatological conditions generally dry

521
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,460
when the irons ions are warmer in the

522
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:44,159
air and have a tendency to show us light

523
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:49,380
that there is some kind of conflict or a

524
00:21:54,649 --> 00:21:52,260
some kind of a plasma formation appears

525
00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:54,659
between these two mountains however the

526
00:21:59,630 --> 00:21:56,820
skeptical argument as a scientist called

527
00:22:02,690 --> 00:21:59,640
Bruin who 216 said

528
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,700
this would all add up but what you don't

529
00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:04,799
have is a catalyst in the middle you

530
00:22:09,770 --> 00:22:07,260
would need a river and that River would

531
00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:09,780
need to have the potential to charge

532
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:12,299
ions in air warm ions

533
00:22:18,049 --> 00:22:14,880
so it got thrown out guess what Vinnie

534
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,059
is The Thermals in tabio are sulfur

535
00:22:22,850 --> 00:22:20,880
pools and we have the El Chico sulfur

536
00:22:25,789 --> 00:22:22,860
river running down the valley between el

537
00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:25,799
mahoy and waika we have that missing

538
00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:28,620
geological component that would validate

539
00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:31,380
the histal and Valley being a battery so

540
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:34,620
what if this is a version of one of

541
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:37,320
these geological batteries as such where

542
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:38,640
perhaps

543
00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:41,100
what would normally be interpreted as

544
00:22:45,649 --> 00:22:43,860
Lightning that manifests in a different

545
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:45,659
kind of way perhaps low in the

546
00:22:50,029 --> 00:22:47,460
atmosphere or even really high in the

547
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,039
atmosphere or perhaps it's some form of

548
00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:52,080
pressure caused electricity you know

549
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:53,580
when those

550
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,440
the change of these Seasons we're going

551
00:22:59,090 --> 00:22:57,120
to have to start the what we're doing

552
00:23:02,570 --> 00:22:59,100
here because I think the change of the

553
00:23:05,409 --> 00:23:02,580
seasons is key to to a lot of this

554
00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:05,419
um and and what happens is

555
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:07,620
twice in the year it changes from

556
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:10,320
extremely dragged extremely wet and in

557
00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:13,140
the course of 10 or 15 days all of the

558
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:15,059
undergrad we're in the Andes so all of

559
00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:18,480
the underground rivers and Chambers and

560
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,260
um

561
00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:21,960
Ravines within mountains they all fill

562
00:23:27,409 --> 00:23:25,020
up with water water creating an intense

563
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,419
pressure in the environment

564
00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:30,480
no 90 miles west we have the river

565
00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:33,179
Magdalena the largest in Colombia

566
00:23:39,529 --> 00:23:36,600
and it runs over a quartzsine riverbed

567
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:39,539
and it's been postulated that perhaps

568
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:42,120
highly charged magnetic clouds in the

569
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:44,700
west okay blown over and colliding with

570
00:23:49,610 --> 00:23:47,460
this change of season here 90 kilometers

571
00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:49,620
to the east you know the climate can

572
00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:51,900
change from 15 miles here depending on

573
00:23:57,230 --> 00:23:53,100
altitude

574
00:24:00,049 --> 00:23:57,240
so we've at this this happens twice a

575
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,059
year so if my I if this idea is right

576
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:02,640
that the change of the seasons the

577
00:24:06,169 --> 00:24:04,620
change in the climate climatological

578
00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:06,179
circumstances causes the light

579
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:07,500
phenomenon

580
00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:09,659
I should be able to make predictions and

581
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:11,340
that's exactly what we did last year and

582
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:13,380
what we're doing this year because all

583
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,799
of the traditional mythology sees

584
00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:19,679
that the light phenomenon appears

585
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:22,860
on Holy Week especially on Holy Friday

586
00:24:27,289 --> 00:24:24,840
you know we're now backing into what

587
00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:27,299
we're filming yeah but let me just cut

588
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:29,220
in cut you into there before we go into

589
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,720
that and because that'll then bring us

590
00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:33,200
into what we're doing for season two

591
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:36,200
let's stick with season one and kind of

592
00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:38,340
I think the good thing for anybody

593
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:39,960
that's interested that hasn't seen

594
00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:41,880
season one is to instead of hearing it

595
00:24:46,510 --> 00:24:43,860
from you now is to go and watch it go

596
00:24:48,590 --> 00:24:46,520
and watch it and we'll get into

597
00:24:50,029 --> 00:24:48,600
you know other things in the second

598
00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:50,039
world what I'd quite like to do and if

599
00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:51,480
it's okay with you is just play a minute

600
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:53,580
or two clip

601
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,640
from season one not episode one so

602
00:25:00,830 --> 00:24:58,320
actually give a little bit of exclusive

603
00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:00,840
footage that if you purchase the season

604
00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:03,299
this is the kind of what you might see

605
00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:05,340
so am I right just playing a couple of

606
00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,780
minutes just to kind of give them a

607
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:09,419
little uh let me ask you which media

608
00:25:13,549 --> 00:25:11,039
Source are you playing this on live

609
00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:13,559
playing this through Vimeo and it's the

610
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,260
the today is it on Vimeo live as we're

611
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:18,720
looking or did you doses no this is my

612
00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:21,000
this is my copy of the full season this

613
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:22,919
is a little couple of minute clip from

614
00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:26,400
episode seven the final episode which

615
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,679
when did you download this well I've had

616
00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:30,960
this have a nice since also it's a

617
00:25:45,769 --> 00:25:43,430
because if I tell you to go and play it

618
00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:45,779
and it's on one of the platforms where

619
00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:48,059
you shouldn't be playing it I feel like

620
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,779
oh dear but this is yeah we'll discuss

621
00:25:55,970 --> 00:25:53,520
afterwards what what you meant by that

622
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:55,980
but um and I've literally if you've just

623
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,480
seen for a minute ago I was listening to

624
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,559
what you were saying but I was just

625
00:26:01,370 --> 00:26:00,000
plugging away here because I wanted to

626
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,380
and I've clicked in a kind of random

627
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:03,840
spot to give people a little bit of a

628
00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:07,980
I'm not I'm not lined up any specific

629
00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:10,620
wow moment this is like a little teaser

630
00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:12,380
of two minutes of the final episode

631
00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:16,440
which gives a little bit of um my yeah

632
00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:18,419
in fact let's just watch it so let me

633
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,740
just bring this up

634
00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:22,559
uh here we go

635
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:24,419
you really do like to announce stuff

636
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:26,880
don't you I just I have a way of doing

637
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,279
things man and yeah I feel like an old

638
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:31,440
stick in the mud but let's make sure

639
00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:33,720
give me a thumbs up if you can hear this

640
00:26:39,049 --> 00:26:36,740
what they are everything is light

641
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,059
and this is just one particular

642
00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:41,039
manifestation of it that we don't seem

643
00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:42,299
to understand

644
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:44,460
we've realized that there are different

645
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:46,500
magnetic charges across the valley as

646
00:26:50,029 --> 00:26:48,659
well so it could just be some kind of

647
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:50,039
strong

648
00:26:54,890 --> 00:26:52,140
surge of energy or something that

649
00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:54,900
attracts this phenomenon people talk

650
00:26:59,210 --> 00:26:57,240
about portals created by an intelligence

651
00:27:01,970 --> 00:26:59,220
you have to keep all possibilities open

652
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:01,980
until you have data that say no it's not

653
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:04,260
that because we've worked that out look

654
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:05,580
at this

655
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:14,630
look at that wow look at that oh my God

656
00:27:20,269 --> 00:27:16,700
oh my gosh and what do you think is that

657
00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:20,279
I have no idea look at it's blue we need

658
00:27:24,289 --> 00:27:21,299
to find it

659
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:26,169
just maybe the worst

660
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,440
you're having a card with mag it's a

661
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,480
focus magnification tool Vinny which

662
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:32,880
allows us well there's two lights no way

663
00:27:36,049 --> 00:27:34,380
look at that look at that two lights

664
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:36,059
guys there we go the evolution of the

665
00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:37,380
phenomenon from one look it's coming off

666
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:40,140
the side wow

667
00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:44,640
what is that now oh my Lord Benny we've

668
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:46,260
just seen movements what happened what

669
00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:49,010
the [\h__\h] was that

670
00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:54,769
right on the top

671
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:56,520
that's on the top of wake of that one

672
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:58,260
you can't have a small light coming out

673
00:28:02,029 --> 00:28:00,179
of a large light like that and call it a

674
00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:02,039
flashlight

675
00:28:06,289 --> 00:28:04,200
how's that even possible

676
00:28:07,789 --> 00:28:06,299
and you can see oh it's too flashy

677
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:07,799
extended together and one guy's moving

678
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,659
away from the other but it's sterical

679
00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:11,279
Delight

680
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:16,810
on the right hand side

681
00:28:21,289 --> 00:28:19,919
on the top I'm in the top again just

682
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,299
look on the mirror door again I've got

683
00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:24,000
it on the camera yeah there's one right

684
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:25,820
up

685
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,760
look at that

686
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,640
so so what so glad nobody knows that

687
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:33,600
they haven't seen it and they're going

688
00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:35,100
to get to episode seven to see that but

689
00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:38,340
let me just boom this we everybody left

690
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,640
or two days after the filming trip was

691
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,880
done officially everybody left my house

692
00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:46,320
essentially everyone was crashing here

693
00:28:51,289 --> 00:28:47,700
in the last night before the airport

694
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:51,299
yeah finished it was done and then

695
00:29:00,110 --> 00:28:55,919
Walter left to Bogota at 2PM Dan left at

696
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:00,120
6 30 p.m and at 7 15 we were on our own

697
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,600
that just what's there it was like one

698
00:29:08,269 --> 00:29:05,820
then two and then what appear to be a

699
00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:08,279
triangle then three or four in a wispy

700
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,740
sort of shape and then pulses of a red

701
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,200
light is that in what we saw kind of

702
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:14,880
summarized yeah and I think the most

703
00:29:19,010 --> 00:29:16,460
important thing that we need to

704
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:19,020
reiterate to people is that for anybody

705
00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:22,140
watching on YouTube now or later you can

706
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:24,419
see behind me and us right now is is a

707
00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:25,919
mountain and that's the mountain that

708
00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:28,200
these lights appeared on and it and

709
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,419
right between me and Ash is a flat face

710
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,080
that is like a a few hundred foot flat

711
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:37,200
face that is inaccessible to humans at

712
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:39,000
all you cannot get to it and this is

713
00:29:42,049 --> 00:29:40,559
where the light was appearing and doing

714
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:42,059
what it was doing

715
00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:45,600
and so you know it was huge the light I

716
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:47,340
think we estimated that the diameter of

717
00:29:54,289 --> 00:29:51,059
the light was 20 to 30 feet and it was a

718
00:29:58,490 --> 00:29:54,299
huge luminous light doing all sorts of

719
00:30:01,070 --> 00:29:58,500
crazy stuff yeah and I think we should

720
00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:01,080
quickly see this though that the purpose

721
00:30:04,909 --> 00:30:03,000
for the beginning of season two on day

722
00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:04,919
one when everyone gets here we're up

723
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:07,080
like the next night because we want to

724
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,620
go up with a range of hikers head

725
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:13,679
torches yeah mag lights we want to take

726
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:17,039
lanterns and we will film us up there so

727
00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:18,840
we can then compare what people look

728
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:21,260
like with lanterns and head torches

729
00:30:24,049 --> 00:30:23,399
compared to what

730
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:24,059
um

731
00:30:29,149 --> 00:30:26,760
our film was that we got last year

732
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:29,159
yeah absolutely this is the thing we've

733
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,500
kind of we've done quite a lot of work

734
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:33,360
already

735
00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:36,779
post filming of season one but what we

736
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:39,419
need to do is show that work in the

737
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,919
beginning of season two you know it's

738
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,720
all good saying that we've done it but

739
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,880
we need to show it to to the viewers and

740
00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:46,860
things like that yeah

741
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:49,940
um and also because the the the

742
00:30:55,490 --> 00:30:53,520
skeptical argument to this is

743
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:55,500
um that it is it's a group of C let's

744
00:30:58,730 --> 00:30:57,240
say four or six people even though we

745
00:31:00,529 --> 00:30:58,740
know the police don't let anybody up

746
00:31:02,450 --> 00:31:00,539
it's closed and if you were hiking you

747
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:02,460
certainly wouldn't use torches there's

748
00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:05,220
all these anecdotal arguments however

749
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,980
we're gonna go and put four or six

750
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,559
thermal trail cams up and around the top

751
00:31:15,289 --> 00:31:12,960
of the mountain on the day one so we can

752
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:15,299
film over Holy Week film over Holy

753
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,880
Friday but let's we should probably

754
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:19,620
that's a great place back to this Holy

755
00:31:23,450 --> 00:31:21,000
Friday is a great place for us to maybe

756
00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:23,460
start talking about what we're doing

757
00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:25,500
I'm in no hurry by the way I just keep

758
00:31:29,389 --> 00:31:27,240
coming back to Holy Friday and wishing I

759
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:29,399
could talk more about that well then no

760
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:31,380
maybe is it is it a good time to sort of

761
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,820
talk about

762
00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:35,039
why we wanted to continue the

763
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:37,080
investigation because that okay I'm

764
00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:38,159
gonna bring it back a little bit and

765
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,480
start from here

766
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:42,000
the reason why you contacted me in the

767
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:43,500
first place to even put together season

768
00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:45,720
one is because you were lucky enough to

769
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:47,640
take a few photographs of this light

770
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:50,220
phenomena and you wanted to investigate

771
00:31:56,330 --> 00:31:54,539
it fully with a team which we did and we

772
00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:56,340
managed to film it so where do we go

773
00:32:02,210 --> 00:31:57,779
from there we need to wanna we wanna

774
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,220
pinpoint what it is right okay let's so

775
00:32:07,570 --> 00:32:04,080
let's start there

776
00:32:12,529 --> 00:32:07,580
so yeah before you guys came for a year

777
00:32:15,649 --> 00:32:12,539
I full at 220 or 221 I photographed

778
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:15,659
19 because we have a house you know and

779
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,860
it's right on the base of the mountain

780
00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:19,200
it's right there in front of us

781
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:22,740
so I have a tripod my 5D 400mm lens and

782
00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:26,220
every night I'm on the balcony and every

783
00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:28,620
15 minutes or 20 minutes I check four or

784
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:30,120
five or ten minutes

785
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,480
and on 19 evenings in one year I saw

786
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,760
lights on the mountain and photographed

787
00:32:39,409 --> 00:32:37,679
them I success some are blur some are

788
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:39,419
out of focus some are exceptionally

789
00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:41,340
sharks are great some are really

790
00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:44,760
mysterious some are quite clearly hikers

791
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,120
why because I know the path that goes up

792
00:32:54,169 --> 00:32:51,120
that you know yourself one there's one

793
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,179
and on either side of that path there is

794
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:57,120
nothing you know it's vertical as you

795
00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,179
know so I can tell I can turn to my wife

796
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:02,580
and say look

797
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:05,460
there's a light just down from the right

798
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,760
of the summit and then I consider I

799
00:33:13,009 --> 00:33:10,679
think in between seven and ten minutes

800
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:13,019
is gonna appear and it's gonna be just

801
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:14,580
beside the montanita because that's

802
00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:17,460
where you turn from the top and face the

803
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:19,140
valley and come down and you boom you

804
00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:22,320
can see how it goes torches but we I've

805
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,539
never ever seen what we saw for such a

806
00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:27,059
prolonged period in one place and then

807
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:29,419
also what we show is it appears to be

808
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:32,100
moving in different parts of the mirror

809
00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:32,880
door

810
00:33:36,529 --> 00:33:35,220
however if any I've got to get rape on

811
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:36,539
this like

812
00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:39,480
I don't know I'm not I'm only saying I

813
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:40,679
don't know because I'm trying to fit in

814
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:44,640
with ufology the truth is I don't think

815
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:47,279
that I I don't think we can even start

816
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:49,559
to conclude that we filmed the the light

817
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:53,100
phenomenon of potato Valley until

818
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,480
we have

819
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:57,120
what we're gonna have in season two is

820
00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:59,580
a thermal drone with thermal cameras

821
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:01,799
above that mountain the second lights

822
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:04,980
appear because as Walter says is he this

823
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,779
season he's betting his bottom dollar

824
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,639
that we are going to see like a cop

825
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:10,800
documentary where we're gonna fly over

826
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:12,419
that mountain and there's going to be

827
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,580
four yellow guys maybe with fireworks or

828
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:17,520
whatever else however if any here's the

829
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:18,720
thing

830
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,139
what what then is to be said for the

831
00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:24,720
accounts from the door of the Gods 400

832
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,810
I know where you're going with that and

833
00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:31,919
what I will say is that we know

834
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:34,080
like you said a couple of minutes ago

835
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,780
about the pathways up the mountain that

836
00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:38,820
we have to take into account where you

837
00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:42,119
can physically go as a person on that

838
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:44,940
mountain face There Are Places on that

839
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:46,980
map you know even the what the path that

840
00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:49,320
we know or the pathways that we know or

841
00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:50,419
you know

842
00:34:55,849 --> 00:34:53,540
they're treacherous enough as it is

843
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,859
so add into that the fact that the

844
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:58,260
mountain is closed to the public there

845
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:01,740
is a what three or four hundred for flat

846
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:04,980
face where the only way you could get on

847
00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,099
that flat face is to abseil which even

848
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:10,500
in the daytime would be pretty much

849
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:13,560
unheard of imagine doing that in the

850
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:16,560
night time no way and then the light

851
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:19,440
source that we saw that we filmed even

852
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:21,720
the light before it Shone out would have

853
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,260
been a diameter of 20 feet you know so

854
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,640
you're talking about someone up there

855
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:28,920
with a light source no I must I've got

856
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:30,839
to see this

857
00:35:35,329 --> 00:35:33,240
I can't let you see that and know what I

858
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:35,339
know and not tell you this so we did an

859
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,140
experiment in the garden

860
00:35:40,609 --> 00:35:38,640
just a

861
00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:40,619
about a month ago we woke up one morning

862
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:43,800
and you couldn't see a thing it was

863
00:35:49,069 --> 00:35:46,320
absolutely pea soup fog

864
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:49,079
so I had my head torch I have this this

865
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:51,240
a hat with two little lights here like

866
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,160
an electrician's hat

867
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,160
and I I said to Natty put this on and

868
00:36:00,050 --> 00:35:58,079
when you're going out with Chia turn

869
00:36:02,569 --> 00:36:00,060
around and face me so she went to the

870
00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:02,579
gate about half a kilometer down the

871
00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:04,740
drive there and she turned around and

872
00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:07,020
faced me that he felt ebony so I filmed

873
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:10,920
it and I knew she had two little like

874
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,099
Christmas tree lights on this hat

875
00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:15,839
if I had filmed it those would have

876
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:20,040
looked about 30 feet in diameter those

877
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:22,200
two small lights so what I'm proposing

878
00:36:27,410 --> 00:36:24,900
here is while they looked at us to be 25

879
00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:27,420
foot wide as you say

880
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:29,820
that might happen because it's it's

881
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:32,220
three kilometers so in a misty night

882
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,619
that they like a light could be

883
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:37,440
Amplified to look bigger in the valley

884
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:41,700
than it actually is but again

885
00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:44,940
what then of this whole why the this

886
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:47,640
whole thing that you saw every street

887
00:36:53,890 --> 00:36:50,280
sign every corner shop every wall has

888
00:36:59,890 --> 00:36:53,900
UFO Arts phenomenology artwork it has

889
00:37:03,589 --> 00:36:59,900
there's I mean last year 2021 Maria

890
00:37:06,589 --> 00:37:03,599
Alvarez report just came forward a 62

891
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:06,599
year old retired captain from the

892
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:08,700
Colombian Air Force she went to ltmbre

893
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,260
newspaper and said

894
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:12,960
we're in my farm house in tenho at the

895
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:15,540
bottom of pendulaiken hiring her 13

896
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:18,300
farmhounds lay in the grass and watched

897
00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:19,980
an oval-shaped

898
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:23,160
a light circling waika for 21 minutes

899
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:26,520
and she described it as a Tic Tac yeah I

900
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:28,619
know she well no let's be accurate she

901
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,920
called it on Tobacco a cigar so and we

902
00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:34,800
which in to all intents and purposes is

903
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:36,780
the same design however they called it a

904
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,940
tobacco or cigar and she said it stopped

905
00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:40,800
above her Farmhouse and for all of her

906
00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:42,599
40 years in the Air Force she's never

907
00:37:49,790 --> 00:37:46,500
seen anything so beautiful because

908
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:49,800
while emitted the light they didn't get

909
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:52,160
lit and she watched they watched it

910
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:54,900
shooting on for jetting off into outer

911
00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:56,820
space as she said herself and she said

912
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,619
it was just a wonderful experience and

913
00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:00,480
of course the reporters were all asking

914
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,820
her you've just taken your entire

915
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:06,000
respected military career as a captain

916
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,700
in the Air Force and essentially

917
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:11,280
put it up for questioning and she said

918
00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:14,040
she couldn't live with herself for for

919
00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:16,740
having seen such a spectacular event

920
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:18,780
around waika

921
00:38:23,089 --> 00:38:20,760
so Skeptics are all over the thing with

922
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,099
this and that there's a TV show here

923
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:25,920
once every month called Mass ajar and

924
00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:28,020
they report stuff they go into all the

925
00:38:31,069 --> 00:38:29,640
local phenomenon and the witness

926
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:31,079
eyewitness accounts from all over

927
00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:34,680
Colombia it's like a an explained a

928
00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:36,839
really popular online show but the

929
00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:39,300
Skeptics in there maintain again that

930
00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:41,099
this is some kind of climatological

931
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:43,260
phenomenon but what's really cool about

932
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:44,720
Vinnie is

933
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,460
this if the Skeptics are right it's

934
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:49,680
still absolutely brilliant that

935
00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:52,260
phenomenology is we're gonna get there

936
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:54,060
first hopefully if it's if it's

937
00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,220
climatology right let's find that out

938
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,020
let's see what's going on

939
00:39:01,849 --> 00:39:00,240
if it is

940
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,859
um see it could be the passing of

941
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,599
Mythology it could be the archetypes of

942
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,240
Mythology sprouting up because you know

943
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,160
the door of the Gods the highest part of

944
00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:09,839
the valley Which is closest to the sky

945
00:39:13,790 --> 00:39:12,359
it starts as the door of the Gods

946
00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:13,800
so if there's a climatological

947
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,660
phenomenon up there that's known as the

948
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,520
Mohan or the mohana and then it gets

949
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,440
passed down and reinterpreted by the

950
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,359
Spanish it's the Saints The Souls of

951
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:24,000
saints then it's reinterpreted in modern

952
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,940
day times as UFOs so we've come from

953
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,800
Spirits to UFOs

954
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:30,720
if this is

955
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:32,339
a case of

956
00:39:38,569 --> 00:39:35,220
400 years of religious thinking of Pop

957
00:39:40,609 --> 00:39:38,579
Culture leading to to a bunch of wrong

958
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:40,619
interpretations for climatology I'd love

959
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:43,619
to be on the front end of that yeah yeah

960
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:45,300
I'd love to be on the front end of that

961
00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:46,680
and it's not

962
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,780
seeking to be a skeptic or seeking to

963
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:50,880
for answers that is UFOs it's nothing to

964
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:52,980
do with that it's more than that what it

965
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,780
is I mean you saw these people you have

966
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:57,060
to be gentle with them because all of

967
00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:00,780
the locals are 100 absolute Believers

968
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:02,280
remember the guy that was doing the

969
00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:04,200
gardens and did the security last time

970
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,900
and I said to this local gardener

971
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:09,359
have you ever seen the lights in Waco

972
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:11,579
he said which ones and I was like okay

973
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,109
he said the spirits or the orphanies the

974
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:21,359
UFOs allow it tell me about both and he

975
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:23,640
said well he goes the spirits linger

976
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:25,140
around the top and they're blue and pink

977
00:40:29,390 --> 00:40:27,540
but he said the UFOs are white and they

978
00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:29,400
go really fast from the mountain into

979
00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:32,220
the sky and you're like I asked you if

980
00:40:35,050 --> 00:40:33,300
you've never seen the lights and now

981
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:35,060
you're giving me two really well

982
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:37,740
threaded Rich cultural Traditions from

983
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:40,320
the 101 tabio Valley and that is the

984
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,140
spirits of set off the as you say it's

985
00:40:51,550 --> 00:40:45,599
the moisture people here from the

986
00:40:58,510 --> 00:40:56,030
arrived in 1537 this is the guy that the

987
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:58,520
congest Conquistadors

988
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:01,140
was the man who called the Conquistador

989
00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:04,980
or the conquester of Colombia where

990
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,099
Cortez was in Mexico Francisco Pizarro

991
00:41:12,730 --> 00:41:10,560
and his brothers were in Peru he arrived

992
00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:12,740
in 1537 and

993
00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:15,000
raised the place to the ground with

994
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:17,339
flames and horrid animals and this is

995
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,500
where these phenomena dates back to him

996
00:41:25,609 --> 00:41:21,599
I have to keep reiterating yeah because

997
00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:25,619
you know he thinks 400 of the last

998
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:29,099
kazakis the local rulers and that they

999
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:30,599
ran to the highest point in their

1000
00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:33,839
environment 14 miles from Bogota

1001
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:37,020
and and there the 400 of them leaked to

1002
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:38,400
their death that's what the mythology

1003
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:39,780
says but we've got to tell you something

1004
00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:41,940
interesting Vinnie if you go to the

1005
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:43,740
Brown Mountain light phenomenon in the

1006
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:47,359
Appalachians yeah yeah there exists also

1007
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,300
indigenous mythology about suicidal

1008
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:53,760
Native American Indians and their

1009
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:55,800
lingering lights so

1010
00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:58,320
it's not it doesn't just exist here

1011
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,119
these mythologies but that makes it even

1012
00:42:04,370 --> 00:42:02,040
more interesting because where you see

1013
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,380
or where people report to see anomalous

1014
00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:06,480
lights well look at that these are the

1015
00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:07,740
way they're interpreted by the

1016
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:09,480
indigenous people and I we you know what

1017
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:10,920
it's like these guys love working with

1018
00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:12,900
us the indigenous

1019
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:14,700
um Community here they had us working

1020
00:42:18,589 --> 00:42:17,520
for them in season one and they were who

1021
00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:18,599
built a well

1022
00:42:23,870 --> 00:42:21,720
available but listen I think that's this

1023
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,880
is a good segue to kind of

1024
00:42:29,569 --> 00:42:26,400
for anybody that's interested in

1025
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:29,579
season one it has been on Vimeo you know

1026
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:32,820
since July but we have now as of today

1027
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:35,760
about what half an hour ago we're now

1028
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:38,700
offering it with a with a discount uh so

1029
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:40,500
if anybody is still not seen it but it

1030
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:41,700
was interested

1031
00:42:46,910 --> 00:42:44,280
um you can go to the description below

1032
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:46,920
you can find it with a discount code a

1033
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,220
25 discount code and go and check out

1034
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,520
season one episode one has also just

1035
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,200
been released on YouTube for the first

1036
00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:57,119
time on the phenomenology YouTube

1037
00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:59,579
channel so please please go and check

1038
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:01,500
that out and go and subscribe to the

1039
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:03,300
channel

1040
00:43:06,349 --> 00:43:04,560
um but one one thing I'm going to do

1041
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,359
right now which I don't do that often is

1042
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:08,400
just I'm just going to spend two minutes

1043
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:09,780
going through the live chat right here

1044
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:10,920
just to give everyone a shout out

1045
00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:12,900
because it is the Christmas holidays and

1046
00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:15,660
you're all spending time today yes can I

1047
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:17,220
tell you something remind you just in

1048
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,900
case you've forgotten I've got this

1049
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:21,359
thing this presentation thing here yeah

1050
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,220
dude we're gonna go through it all we've

1051
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:25,680
got there's no time limit on this no I

1052
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:27,000
just wondered if you completely

1053
00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:28,440
forgotten about it and you tried to buff

1054
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:39,109
out of here oh actually no I love you so

1055
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:40,980
much brother this is the thing oh

1056
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:43,680
fantastic and before I do this thank you

1057
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:46,440
to everyone being here Ash like we got

1058
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:48,680
to know each other so well

1059
00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:50,940
when we were out there that we literally

1060
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:53,099
we spent so much time since we've been

1061
00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:55,319
out to Scotland together since we've

1062
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:57,240
done so much together we speak all the

1063
00:44:02,750 --> 00:43:58,140
time

1064
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,760
oh friends we form this like you know

1065
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:05,040
it's not just you and me it's me you Dan

1066
00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:07,020
Walter the whole team are still very

1067
00:44:11,569 --> 00:44:09,720
much in contact it's because we're we

1068
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:11,579
don't mind telling each other to shut up

1069
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,380
you know yeah exactly that's the

1070
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,720
beautiful thing about it listen I want

1071
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:17,040
to give a shout out to you guys so I'm

1072
00:44:21,410 --> 00:44:19,380
going to go from this list here my very

1073
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:21,420
good friend Lara paranormal pixie thank

1074
00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:23,460
you for being here just the Lister your

1075
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:26,700
name love you to bits Andre always here

1076
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:29,220
anybody that uh you know I don't shout

1077
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,599
out I'm just going through a small list

1078
00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:33,599
but Kurt um thank you for being here

1079
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:34,500
um

1080
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,300
well let's just stop scrolling what's

1081
00:44:44,329 --> 00:44:42,230
Lickety X splits or Lickety splits you

1082
00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:44,339
mentioned in a comment that you'd only

1083
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:46,500
just come here because you found us on

1084
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:48,660
Chris Leto's Channel this week thank you

1085
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:50,040
so much and this is what everybody

1086
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:52,980
that's new is so welcome here thank you

1087
00:44:57,410 --> 00:44:56,160
so much for being here Jay Alan uh

1088
00:44:59,089 --> 00:44:57,420
you're always here asking great

1089
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,099
questions in my interviews fuse the

1090
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:00,960
electron or fuse electron however you

1091
00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:04,200
say it thank you so much for being here

1092
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,579
um I don't want to miss anybody out

1093
00:45:08,990 --> 00:45:07,440
George Hernandez good to see you Jason

1094
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:09,000
Faye

1095
00:45:13,069 --> 00:45:11,400
my brother love you to bits man George

1096
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,079
Hernandez thank you so much for being

1097
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,359
here guys I just want to shout out you

1098
00:45:19,609 --> 00:45:16,800
guys because I know when I do these

1099
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:19,619
interviews that it's like starts into

1100
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:21,660
into interview finishes and I don't give

1101
00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:25,020
you guys maybe enough kind of

1102
00:45:30,109 --> 00:45:27,960
shout outs or positivity or or you know

1103
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,119
I don't say thank you enough but it's

1104
00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:31,920
Christmas and I just wanted to say that

1105
00:45:36,109 --> 00:45:34,020
you know I've been doing this for a year

1106
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,119
and a half now and you guys are the

1107
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,940
reason why I'm still doing this so

1108
00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:41,040
um thank you so much guys thank you so

1109
00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:42,900
much for being here and to everybody

1110
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:44,280
that listens

1111
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,440
after the fact you guys are just as

1112
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:49,680
important and anyone on the Anonymous

1113
00:45:53,809 --> 00:45:51,000
podcast

1114
00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:53,819
you guys rock too uh gonna give one more

1115
00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:55,319
shout out beardy weirdly thank you so

1116
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,220
much it's Mr strafe Wilson is here

1117
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,440
strafe Wilson was with me and Ash in

1118
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:03,780
Scotland earlier in the year but yeah

1119
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:05,640
guys thank you so much and oh I see you

1120
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:08,940
Mr Walter Payne in the chat is he there

1121
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,960
is he

1122
00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:12,480
Walters in the chats Walter was with us

1123
00:46:15,010 --> 00:46:13,560
in this

1124
00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:15,020
endeavor

1125
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:18,900
Waller represents the team's hard-nosed

1126
00:46:30,349 --> 00:46:28,130
alien girl one one thank you for being

1127
00:46:32,450 --> 00:46:30,359
here at a veal stretch Bachelor thank

1128
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:32,460
you so much for being here uh stretch

1129
00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:33,960
says he found us from Chris's Channel

1130
00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:36,060
thank you so much guys thank you it

1131
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,800
really means a lot

1132
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:40,079
um I think this is a good segue now to

1133
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:43,319
jump into see before we do this because

1134
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:45,540
you mentioned them two or three times

1135
00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:47,940
can I quickly tell you my my Chris

1136
00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:53,569
let me tell you this so a year ago I

1137
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:55,319
woke up on the wrong side of the bed all

1138
00:46:59,710 --> 00:46:56,760
right and I put on YouTube and I saw

1139
00:47:03,410 --> 00:46:59,720
this by the way as well

1140
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:03,420
my other brother I'm sure he is I have

1141
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:04,980
no interest in what relationship you

1142
00:47:08,089 --> 00:47:06,119
have together because I'm going to tell

1143
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,099
you the story of partial as to how it

1144
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:11,460
was I woke up and he had said something

1145
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:15,420
and I never ever engage at all in social

1146
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:18,180
media debate I I sometimes feel like it

1147
00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:21,300
but I just my rule don't but I broke my

1148
00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:24,060
rule this day and I I hammered in and I

1149
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,740
was having a right Old Goat crested in

1150
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:27,440
the most immature

1151
00:47:31,790 --> 00:47:30,599
embarrassing worst version of myself and

1152
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:31,800
there I was and you know something

1153
00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:34,140
happened I was kind of holding it

1154
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:35,819
together being mannerly when I was you

1155
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,900
know when you're telling someone you

1156
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:38,880
think they're an ass but you tell them

1157
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:40,740
look in my opinion and then in the

1158
00:47:44,569 --> 00:47:42,900
utmost respect you're at work

1159
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:44,579
it was like that and I didn't get a

1160
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:47,099
chance because essentially

1161
00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:48,839
a pack like

1162
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:52,440
a pack of werewolf-like Chris little

1163
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:55,859
fans saw me off I was like a wolf around

1164
00:48:00,050 --> 00:47:57,900
the Sheep they saw me over and I woke up

1165
00:48:02,089 --> 00:48:00,060
the next day and for the next three

1166
00:48:03,770 --> 00:48:02,099
months I was watching stuff Chris later

1167
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,780
I did now listen to this do you know

1168
00:48:07,849 --> 00:48:05,760
what I've got now look I even have that

1169
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:07,859
written down look my Chris little story

1170
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,800
because I felt so guilty and realizing

1171
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:13,680
is actually a really nice person whether

1172
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:16,380
you agree disagree whether you're

1173
00:48:20,809 --> 00:48:19,140
indifferent he's he's a consistent

1174
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:20,819
fellow and there's not many out there

1175
00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:23,339
and I just felt awful so Chris shout

1176
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,800
outs sorry about that [\h__\h]

1177
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:28,319
well this is the thing like myself and

1178
00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:31,740
Dan are ambassadors for UAP Society I'm

1179
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:33,240
very good friends with Chris just like

1180
00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:34,920
I'm very good friends with you you know

1181
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,140
and uh Chris is nothing but 100

1182
00:48:45,010 --> 00:48:41,280
supportive of the work that we've done

1183
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:45,020
in Colombia and the works

1184
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,060
I think no no I think we realized that

1185
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:49,680
it was um

1186
00:48:55,069 --> 00:48:51,960
I mean I didn't see the conversation but

1187
00:48:56,290 --> 00:48:55,079
I'm sure you weren't a complete dick I

1188
00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:56,300
mean

1189
00:49:01,010 --> 00:48:58,500
no there's a higher chance of Wars

1190
00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:01,020
because I have no I have no guilt of

1191
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:02,819
course I have guilt but this is one of

1192
00:49:05,930 --> 00:49:04,319
the ones that every time you maybe see

1193
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,940
some interviews doing the new thing on

1194
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:08,160
Instagram and you see it you go you know

1195
00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:09,900
you get that draw that we anxious thing

1196
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:11,400
and a bunch of them builds up to a

1197
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,740
nervous disorder but I do I get that

1198
00:49:16,670 --> 00:49:15,119
draw bread when I think it might be next

1199
00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,680
I was probably a dick that day you're

1200
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,540
just trying to soften up right so good I

1201
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:20,280
am trying to soften it I'm just trying

1202
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:22,500
to be a realist in the up with it with

1203
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:24,839
the utmost respect to the truth and me

1204
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:26,280
being a dick better do you rather than

1205
00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:28,079
anything about Chris himself that's what

1206
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:29,400
I thought I'd tell you absolutely and

1207
00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:31,380
that's fine and that's a cool story I

1208
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:32,940
didn't realize that you knew that each

1209
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:34,260
other I've never seen them on your show

1210
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:35,940
I must have looked back Chris I've had

1211
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:37,260
Chris has been a guest a couple of times

1212
00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:39,000
on my show I've been on his show a

1213
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:41,579
couple of times but you know it's an

1214
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:43,980
honor to be uh invited by him earlier in

1215
00:49:49,609 --> 00:49:46,440
the year to be a part of UAP Society to

1216
00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:49,619
be an ambassador uh for his group and

1217
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,000
Dan as well

1218
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:53,040
and it's great but one thing I think

1219
00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:54,720
that I'll finish with this part of the

1220
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,819
conversation is that that's the beauty

1221
00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:58,800
of the UFO subjects is that we can have

1222
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,140
different differences of opinion and

1223
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,880
even though you might consider the fact

1224
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,800
that you acted like a dick as you say

1225
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,440
I'm sure it was just passionate

1226
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:09,599
differences of opinion I'm sure you're

1227
00:50:13,609 --> 00:50:11,880
not a troll I know that can you just let

1228
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:13,619
it be that I was a dick and stop trying

1229
00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:17,160
to soften it yeah I'm not about all the

1230
00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:19,020
time it was an instance you know let's

1231
00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:20,940
not judge me on the exception let's

1232
00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:23,099
stick to the rule you know you see

1233
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,540
everyone that's listening and watching

1234
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,400
even the boss the big man of

1235
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:29,520
phenomenology oh sure it's human it's

1236
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:31,380
human as well the big man of

1237
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,240
phenomenology who was who represents

1238
00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:35,520
less than one percent at least minimum

1239
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:38,780
maximum of season one they deliberately

1240
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:41,640
I filmed it I filmed it and enjoyed

1241
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:43,560
watching all of you do dangerous things

1242
00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:46,560
and I was in it I popped in a few times

1243
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,059
but I'm going to join the team we have

1244
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,920
other people filming it this season too

1245
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:52,319
so I'm gonna be definitely in there with

1246
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:54,660
you to in all of the places we go and

1247
00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:55,980
all the things that we're trying to do

1248
00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:57,960
there were so many times when we were

1249
00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:00,180
interviewing people and maybe at the top

1250
00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:01,980
of my Hoy or at the top of waika we're

1251
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:04,440
in dangerous places doing cool things

1252
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:09,480
I I was I felt really really down that I

1253
00:51:14,030 --> 00:51:12,420
had a 35 kilo 35 pound of camera

1254
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:14,040
equipment on my back and my old knees

1255
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:15,960
were breaking and I wasn't really able

1256
00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:18,480
to to this but this year I'm going to be

1257
00:51:22,130 --> 00:51:20,220
springing like a deer with y'all up

1258
00:51:23,809 --> 00:51:22,140
those mountains

1259
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:23,819
um I say do you know what I guess one

1260
00:51:28,130 --> 00:51:26,640
one huge piece of respect that I have to

1261
00:51:30,349 --> 00:51:28,140
throw you away is that there were

1262
00:51:40,809 --> 00:51:30,359
certain things captured on camera of me

1263
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:43,910
in the last year we've filmed more than

1264
00:51:50,089 --> 00:51:47,460
once and on different projects and on

1265
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:50,099
each occasion Vinnie starts there's

1266
00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:52,260
always a day where he goes I'm not going

1267
00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:53,460
to get pissed tonight I'm just gonna

1268
00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:55,380
have a bottle of wine and you're like

1269
00:51:59,569 --> 00:51:56,940
he's gonna get really pissed tonight

1270
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:59,579
you'd have three bottles of wine and he

1271
00:52:02,990 --> 00:52:01,500
never lets us down but there's this

1272
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,000
funny thing that happens with Vinnie

1273
00:52:07,069 --> 00:52:04,800
because he's not one of those aggressive

1274
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:07,079
drunks it's like the big

1275
00:52:11,930 --> 00:52:09,300
teddy bear drunk so what happens is I

1276
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,940
forget he's pissing it up after two

1277
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:14,160
wines he's like you have never met

1278
00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:15,960
anyone like him he's like the father you

1279
00:52:20,450 --> 00:52:18,780
always wish you had right no and then

1280
00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:20,460
you're like oh my God I wish I was this

1281
00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:22,619
kind of lit and then you see him after

1282
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,900
four and it's you're on the couch

1283
00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:26,880
arguing with someone about all this

1284
00:52:30,530 --> 00:52:28,500
remember the year of War argument with

1285
00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:30,540
Gordo that you had last time we filmed

1286
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,300
dude I love it man it was to me it was

1287
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:35,760
great this guy represents it was this is

1288
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,700
the thing I put after a full day's work

1289
00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:41,760
or a full days hiking up a mountain

1290
00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:44,460
and we're you know a couple of glasses

1291
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,440
of uh I was gonna say Colombia line but

1292
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:48,240
it isn't because you don't get Colombian

1293
00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:50,280
wine because it's all Chilean and stuff

1294
00:52:55,210 --> 00:52:52,380
you get shot here because of the

1295
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:55,220
altitude right so you've got yeah 30

1296
00:53:01,010 --> 00:52:58,500
less pulmonary metabolism

1297
00:53:03,650 --> 00:53:01,020
yeah so a beer or two beers but what

1298
00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:03,660
happens too is as you know you know full

1299
00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:07,980
well is the hangovers are unlivable

1300
00:53:12,589 --> 00:53:10,140
you're unbearable you can't do the

1301
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:12,599
hangovers you need to spend almost a

1302
00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:14,940
whole day in bed don't you Vinnie you do

1303
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,540
yeah I had a moment but listen

1304
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,400
sometimes sometimes you might you

1305
00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:22,079
sometimes you might have to stay in bed

1306
00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:23,700
so long that we have to get a taxi to

1307
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,040
the to the railway station with your

1308
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:28,319
jacket and bag that you might just

1309
00:53:32,329 --> 00:53:30,780
forget yeah but that's Scotland that's a

1310
00:53:33,470 --> 00:53:32,339
whole different ball game Scotland

1311
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:33,480
Colombia

1312
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,220
indeed

1313
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:38,160
let's move on to yeah

1314
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:42,000
post season one we spent the last few

1315
00:53:46,030 --> 00:53:44,520
months season one came out on weekly

1316
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,040
episodical

1317
00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:49,200
releases it was great I really enjoyed

1318
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,760
it I love the way you did it I love the

1319
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,800
way that

1320
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:54,720
me and Dan and the rest of the team

1321
00:53:58,970 --> 00:53:56,819
didn't know what to expect I think that

1322
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:58,980
was really awesome Ash

1323
00:54:04,849 --> 00:54:01,920
spent months and months of his life

1324
00:54:06,770 --> 00:54:04,859
hours and hours days weeks months

1325
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:06,780
busting his butt to get this season

1326
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:09,000
edited and now this is all his work and

1327
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:11,640
it I you know from in my opinion it was

1328
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:14,280
top-notch no there's been it's only now

1329
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:17,160
it is Vinny because there is a a balls

1330
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:18,900
up in the process of

1331
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:21,119
um transferring from the editors to the

1332
00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:23,160
different platforms the Vimeo then the

1333
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,500
different ones so I would say it's only

1334
00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:27,359
now that I would I can agree with you

1335
00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:29,099
there in its entirety what we have

1336
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:30,540
because

1337
00:54:35,329 --> 00:54:33,480
it does it's beautiful it looks the

1338
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:35,339
business now and it shows the entirety

1339
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,220
of what we did of just perfect then

1340
00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:40,559
I what you know did you see we got a

1341
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,300
really negative comment today

1342
00:54:47,049 --> 00:54:44,880
no I didn't I don't read comments most

1343
00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:47,059
most of the time

1344
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:49,740
one thing I want to tell I need to tell

1345
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,500
you what this is it's no it's not a bad

1346
00:54:57,170 --> 00:54:55,200
one it's it's a negative intro with a

1347
00:55:00,650 --> 00:54:57,180
with a positive extra

1348
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,660
the person watched episode 4 of Vimeo on

1349
00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:02,640
demand and they said

1350
00:55:07,609 --> 00:55:04,920
you just debunked the blue light

1351
00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:07,619
phenomenon but yet you didn't Supply

1352
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,020
Drone footage or Google Maps to show

1353
00:55:15,049 --> 00:55:12,000
where you guys think that Transformer

1354
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:15,059
was he goes you that is a shallow way to

1355
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:16,680
end and you had no right to debunk it

1356
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:19,260
you know I thought you're absolutely

1357
00:55:24,970 --> 00:55:22,800
right yep yep

1358
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,980
just as a side note there you go no no

1359
00:55:30,109 --> 00:55:27,359
but that's something we will learn from

1360
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,119
and take forward you know this was

1361
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:32,819
season one this was new to everybody 100

1362
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:35,579
and and that's fine but the one thing I

1363
00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:37,859
will say is that we could have

1364
00:55:42,170 --> 00:55:39,180
sold this

1365
00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:42,180
to a production company and lost all

1366
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:44,460
creative control we could have put this

1367
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:45,300
out to

1368
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:51,829
conversations had where we could have

1369
00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:53,880
sold this in early days all walked away

1370
00:55:58,849 --> 00:55:55,980
with a nice little tidy bit of money in

1371
00:56:01,309 --> 00:55:58,859
our pocket and gone hey but we didn't

1372
00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:01,319
because of the passion so no you're

1373
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,540
saying that as if you don't throw that

1374
00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:06,000
away for at least a year before this I

1375
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:09,180
was pitching this to producers in in Los

1376
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:10,800
Angeles and I

1377
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:13,260
I got really in thick after two or three

1378
00:56:16,430 --> 00:56:14,640
months and

1379
00:56:20,329 --> 00:56:16,440
I I don't know if you know that world

1380
00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:20,339
but there's um a layer within production

1381
00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:22,619
called development producers

1382
00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,300
and they come in

1383
00:56:28,609 --> 00:56:26,339
and they are tasked with

1384
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:28,619
speaking to people like me who might

1385
00:56:33,650 --> 00:56:30,839
have ideas for new shows that they can

1386
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:33,660
pitch to generally Discovery history or

1387
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:36,480
Nat Geo and and I was right and deep

1388
00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:38,280
with this phenomenon and guess what

1389
00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:40,980
happened out come skin walker Ranch come

1390
00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:43,079
out with a second or third episode of

1391
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:44,700
that and it started to catch fire and

1392
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:47,339
this is what happened Vinnie that

1393
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:49,260
development producer came back and said

1394
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:51,960
she started saying to me that if we

1395
00:56:57,410 --> 00:56:54,540
pitched it as if it was skinwalkers in

1396
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:57,420
Colombia were good and I was like yeah

1397
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:01,619
if we did I'm sure we're good but I have

1398
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:05,040
to live live with this come on now and I

1399
00:57:08,750 --> 00:57:06,540
could see it imagine Vinnie and Dan

1400
00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,760
running about with Electro meters you

1401
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:10,920
know rubbing it past their phones and

1402
00:57:15,470 --> 00:57:13,380
getting them going off and I I just

1403
00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:15,480
couldn't do it so we pulled back and I

1404
00:57:19,730 --> 00:57:17,400
came out of a development contract and

1405
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:19,740
then as tonight emailed you and said you

1406
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,420
want to make a documentary Grassroots

1407
00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:23,339
and like just see how it goes and have

1408
00:57:27,650 --> 00:57:25,140
fun doing it and would you come to

1409
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,660
Colombia and then you said yes so then I

1410
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:29,760
went and told Mr D's airstrom and said

1411
00:57:34,849 --> 00:57:32,160
well I've got a buy-in from Vinnie and

1412
00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:34,859
they say to Dan is do you have the balls

1413
00:57:38,750 --> 00:57:37,260
enough to come into Colombia knowing

1414
00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:38,760
that I heard you I said Vinnie certainly

1415
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:40,920
does and then within four of it is he

1416
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:43,260
did his GoFundMe and he raised almost

1417
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,660
two thousand dollars to get him here so

1418
00:57:49,450 --> 00:57:47,520
that's how Dan got here it's great

1419
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:49,460
yeah absolutely man

1420
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,480
so anyway what do you want to do now

1421
00:57:55,609 --> 00:57:53,760
then well I just I'm going to make one

1422
00:57:59,089 --> 00:57:55,619
statement and you don't have to chime in

1423
00:58:02,089 --> 00:57:59,099
on this but the only outsourced

1424
00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:02,099
financial help that was made for this

1425
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:05,339
series was to get down here Dan with

1426
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,760
Andy from that UFO podcast put out

1427
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:11,040
a post to their followers

1428
00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:13,800
um of that UFO podcast to get done out

1429
00:58:17,329 --> 00:58:15,240
here they raised two thousand dollars

1430
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,339
that paid for Dan's trip and everything

1431
00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:19,440
there have been rumors and I'm only

1432
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:21,240
going to literally spend a second

1433
00:58:25,490 --> 00:58:22,859
touching upon this but there have been

1434
00:58:28,930 --> 00:58:25,500
rumors that tens of thousands of dollars

1435
00:58:31,849 --> 00:58:28,940
were raised and that that money was made

1436
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:31,859
raised to pay towards the production of

1437
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:34,319
this uh production for season one that

1438
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:37,079
is not the case all of the money came

1439
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:41,880
from Ashley's own pocket that's it

1440
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,720
foreign

1441
00:58:46,430 --> 00:58:45,359
and we don't even have to go into that I

1442
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:46,440
just wanted to put that out there

1443
00:58:50,690 --> 00:58:48,660
because conversations have been had on

1444
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:50,700
the internet and social media and all

1445
00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:52,140
that nonsense and that's it that's all

1446
00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:54,660
I'm going to say about that I know but

1447
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:56,040
what you're saying is I'm not allowed to

1448
00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:57,359
comment on that

1449
00:59:00,770 --> 00:58:58,980
yeah but yeah but dude we could just

1450
00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:00,780
talk about that for hours and let's not

1451
00:59:05,089 --> 00:59:03,420
give them the benefit of even you know

1452
00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:05,099
highlighting the nonsense if you know

1453
00:59:09,410 --> 00:59:06,780
what I mean I totally you know what you

1454
00:59:10,970 --> 00:59:09,420
mean I I totally get you I'm going to go

1455
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:10,980
and you've got 30 seconds all right good

1456
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,780
man so I was dying it I was so I I too

1457
00:59:18,589 --> 00:59:17,040
watched all these things because what

1458
00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:18,599
you're doing is you're watching UFO

1459
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:21,540
channels thinking oh maybe I should send

1460
00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:23,880
that guy a discount code because if he

1461
00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:26,040
watched the documentary or maybe you'll

1462
00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:28,260
give them the first three episodes and

1463
00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:29,940
all these people that I had listened to

1464
00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:32,579
for the last two years and loved all the

1465
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:34,500
different podcasters the quirky ones the

1466
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:37,020
straight ones and that and all of a

1467
00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:38,400
sudden a few of them started talking

1468
00:59:41,690 --> 00:59:39,960
about phenomenology and started

1469
00:59:43,849 --> 00:59:41,700
brandishing numbers about and I was just

1470
00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:43,859
you know it does you're looking at it

1471
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:45,299
thinking

1472
00:59:48,430 --> 00:59:47,160
the reviews are on something that

1473
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,440
doesn't exist

1474
00:59:54,829 --> 00:59:51,359
16s and twenty thousand pounds my good

1475
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,839
Lord I wish I'd love that my plan my

1476
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,119
wife and I's plan is we we do an

1477
01:00:00,589 --> 00:59:58,799
archaeological kind of documentary every

1478
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,599
year and we fly people here and we don't

1479
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,640
tour but we do adventures with people

1480
01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:04,799
six and eight people at a time twice a

1481
01:00:09,549 --> 01:00:07,380
year sometimes and we just decided to do

1482
01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:09,559
UFOs this year and my good Lord

1483
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:11,700
apparently one's not allowed to try and

1484
01:00:16,609 --> 01:00:13,380
make cash in this industry in this in

1485
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:16,619
this zone so we hope to make money in

1486
01:00:20,270 --> 01:00:18,420
the future on sales and Vimeo in the

1487
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,280
seasons you know that means that we

1488
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:21,839
break even with you guys coming on the

1489
01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:23,640
production which you're going to see the

1490
01:00:27,770 --> 01:00:24,839
cost of we're about to tell everybody

1491
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,780
what it is we want people to come but we

1492
01:00:31,309 --> 01:00:29,520
hope to make a few dollars in selling

1493
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:31,319
video over the future if it keeps going

1494
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:32,460
you know

1495
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,260
absolutely man

1496
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:36,960
but anyway because let's get on but yeah

1497
01:00:42,109 --> 01:00:40,079
there you go we just we're an hour in

1498
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:42,119
and one thing I wanted to say is I

1499
01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:45,359
wanted to be sneaky and surprise you and

1500
01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:48,900
I invited Mr Walter Payne to join us he

1501
01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:50,819
couldn't so I'd put that out there but

1502
01:00:55,549 --> 01:00:53,220
he he has got messaged me saying that he

1503
01:00:59,569 --> 01:00:55,559
is streaming this to his family right

1504
01:01:00,650 --> 01:00:59,579
now great stuff which is cool do you

1505
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,660
know what I bet he's got a brother

1506
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:02,040
called Max

1507
01:01:10,130 --> 01:01:05,599
so Willow shout out Walter Max

1508
01:01:11,569 --> 01:01:10,140
I'm just a reference to Max Payne Walter

1509
01:01:13,609 --> 01:01:11,579
and your family if you're watching this

1510
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,619
right now live shout out to you we love

1511
01:01:17,390 --> 01:01:15,119
you brother we can't wait to hook up

1512
01:01:20,809 --> 01:01:17,400
with you again in April 2023 for season

1513
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:20,819
two yeah and but listen let's get in to

1514
01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:23,400
season 2022. let's jump straight in to

1515
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:26,280
what you have planned for us the team

1516
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,160
I'm gonna share my screen

1517
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:31,680
and we're gonna get into the Expedition

1518
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:33,599
itinerary or

1519
01:01:39,650 --> 01:01:37,319
or we could announce

1520
01:01:41,569 --> 01:01:39,660
one of our new team members who has been

1521
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:41,579
here in this live chat the whole time

1522
01:01:46,250 --> 01:01:44,160
all right now what what we're going to

1523
01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:46,260
do is we're going to announce her at the

1524
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,160
end

1525
01:01:50,809 --> 01:01:49,440
okay all right so I'm going to share my

1526
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:50,819
screen right now

1527
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,520
and we're gonna literally talk you guys

1528
01:02:00,890 --> 01:01:55,920
through what we have planned

1529
01:02:03,170 --> 01:02:00,900
for season two on a day-to-day basis

1530
01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:03,180
yeah kind of day-to-day basis Loosely

1531
01:02:06,130 --> 01:02:04,980
now what are you sure you're sharing

1532
01:02:09,410 --> 01:02:06,140
your screen you're telling everybody

1533
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,420
yeah I've got your website right but I

1534
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:11,520
want to share my presentation here

1535
01:02:17,710 --> 01:02:13,440
let's go with yours dude

1536
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:17,720
come on amateur Vinnie amateur

1537
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:19,980
I thought ah we're gonna see him getting

1538
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,400
all there he's gonna get all into it I

1539
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:24,960
just like to be prepared so you know

1540
01:02:28,609 --> 01:02:26,940
that I've got three monitors in front of

1541
01:02:30,770 --> 01:02:28,619
me and that's why anybody that notices

1542
01:02:32,569 --> 01:02:30,780
has seen me going like left right and

1543
01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:32,579
looking over I have everything

1544
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:34,680
everything set up around me but dude

1545
01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:36,540
let's go for your screen man you know do

1546
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:37,799
you know I do it from time to time I

1547
01:02:40,730 --> 01:02:39,240
look to the right like that and then I

1548
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,740
look over to the left and then people

1549
01:02:45,049 --> 01:02:42,000
think I've got three monitors I've

1550
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:45,059
actually got like a cup of coffee and a

1551
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,460
plant you know that'll be like that it's

1552
01:02:53,410 --> 01:02:49,680
all good man it works it works man don't

1553
01:02:55,309 --> 01:02:53,420
break don't break the uh enigma

1554
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:55,319
laughs

1555
01:02:58,970 --> 01:02:57,119
so go and share your screen I'll see it

1556
01:03:01,250 --> 01:02:58,980
pop up and I'll bring it up

1557
01:03:03,890 --> 01:03:01,260
um okay two texts so if I minimize My

1558
01:03:06,890 --> 01:03:03,900
Stream yard feed with you

1559
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,900
oh no I can't do that you must bring out

1560
01:03:14,270 --> 01:03:08,640
up go to the bottom click present

1561
01:03:19,309 --> 01:03:15,770
all right

1562
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:19,319
um I'm gonna press that and share

1563
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,140
there we go can you see my screen well I

1564
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:24,480
can see it like a

1565
01:03:29,809 --> 01:03:27,960
yeah there we go is this better full

1566
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:29,819
screen it that that is absolutely

1567
01:03:34,849 --> 01:03:32,400
perfect look at that really good

1568
01:03:36,349 --> 01:03:34,859
phenomenology S2

1569
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,359
dude you didn't even know I didn't even

1570
01:03:41,809 --> 01:03:39,119
know you'd done this

1571
01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:41,819
as you know what I always do that to you

1572
01:03:45,049 --> 01:03:43,500
every week I like to drop something else

1573
01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:45,059
that I never told you anything about

1574
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:47,220
like that this guy is the red [\h__\h]

1575
01:03:55,069 --> 01:03:51,589
I I never stopped learning about you

1576
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:55,079
mate that was funny if you don't ask you

1577
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:58,319
don't get to know yeah right so here we

1578
01:04:04,430 --> 01:04:02,160
go so phenomenology Series 2 S2 team of

1579
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:04,440
UAP investigators and of course UAP for

1580
01:04:09,230 --> 01:04:06,020
us stands for

1581
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:09,240
unidentified anomalous phenomenon of

1582
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,339
course thank you

1583
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:13,680
thank you for saying that hasta doesn't

1584
01:04:18,109 --> 01:04:15,900
it I've always yes I've struggled with

1585
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:18,119
this so much because if I'm in my garden

1586
01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:20,339
at night with a telescope or a tripod

1587
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:22,380
with the camera and I see a light

1588
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,660
against Waker

1589
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:27,119
I can't call that an unidentified aerial

1590
01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:28,799
phenomenon because I don't know if

1591
01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:31,500
that's in the air or in the ground or

1592
01:04:37,010 --> 01:04:33,780
you know I so but this is wonderful

1593
01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:37,020
anomalous yep let's do it

1594
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:39,720
right so here we go I thought I'd do

1595
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,200
this first a series wow

1596
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,900
right so on the left just if I'd put

1597
01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:47,520
that in for fun this is the 10-hole

1598
01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:51,180
tabio UFO Monument it was built 23 25

1599
01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:54,359
years ago as just as I said as a

1600
01:04:59,210 --> 01:04:57,480
monument to the the to the UFOs and UAP

1601
01:05:02,390 --> 01:04:59,220
and the phenomenal phenomenological

1602
01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:02,400
light phenomenon of the tabio valley so

1603
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:04,020
that that was there we're gonna go film

1604
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,000
at that for fun there's going to be

1605
01:05:10,430 --> 01:05:08,160
three aspects to season two we're going

1606
01:05:14,089 --> 01:05:10,440
to be looking at mythology

1607
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:14,099
phenomenology and archeology

1608
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,579
now I get to talk about my Holy Week

1609
01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:19,920
imagine what it does to one's head when

1610
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:21,480
so many people locally and so many

1611
01:05:25,970 --> 01:05:24,480
accounts talk about these loses dens and

1612
01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:25,980
this or

1613
01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:29,160
ranchitos luminados Mohan mohana El

1614
01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:31,680
Encanto the charm the lights could be

1615
01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:32,819
summoned and they talk about this

1616
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,960
occurring

1617
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:35,760
on Holy Friday

1618
01:05:42,049 --> 01:05:38,400
now if any the problem with that being

1619
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,059
Holy Friday is a date appointed on the

1620
01:05:46,010 --> 01:05:43,680
Gregorian calendar

1621
01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:46,020
it's not really new several centuries

1622
01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:49,260
old so how would why would I put light

1623
01:05:56,089 --> 01:05:53,160
phenomenon occur on a relatively modern

1624
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:56,099
Catholic holiday I don't think it does

1625
01:06:01,130 --> 01:05:58,799
what's happening is the Catholic holiday

1626
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:01,140
the Holy Friday the Holy Week is

1627
01:06:06,410 --> 01:06:03,420
overlaying the change of the seasons

1628
01:06:09,770 --> 01:06:06,420
from dry to wet the beginning of the

1629
01:06:10,970 --> 01:06:09,780
first wet winter if you like so what

1630
01:06:13,309 --> 01:06:10,980
we're going to be doing is we're going

1631
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,319
to be interviewing a mythologist a

1632
01:06:18,530 --> 01:06:16,079
famous old man is in his 80s now and he

1633
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,540
was the guy in the 60s who recorded the

1634
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:21,359
cheap chat or the moist mythology that

1635
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:24,720
on Holy Friday two rocks at the top of

1636
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,720
white open to reveal the charm El

1637
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,000
Encanto which are the lights

1638
01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:32,460
and if you follow the charm on Holy

1639
01:06:38,210 --> 01:06:34,920
Friday it will lead you to buried

1640
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:38,220
indigenous treasure so the mythology is

1641
01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:41,160
on Holy Friday and Holy Week the

1642
01:06:45,529 --> 01:06:43,500
mountain opens reveals its lights and

1643
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,539
they indicate the whereabouts of buried

1644
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,280
indigenous Treasures so we're going to

1645
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:48,480
explore we're going to interview the guy

1646
01:06:53,690 --> 01:06:50,880
who recorded those myths two of them he

1647
01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:53,700
recorded and it got it from Rice's

1648
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:55,799
moisters so these are modern day moist

1649
01:06:59,930 --> 01:06:58,319
is from with traditional heritage

1650
01:07:02,089 --> 01:06:59,940
and we're going to explore that the

1651
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:02,099
mythology of the whites but

1652
01:07:05,870 --> 01:07:03,960
we're also going to be

1653
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,880
heading the road and we're going to be

1654
01:07:09,770 --> 01:07:08,400
going to the planetary I don't want to

1655
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:09,780
tell you the itinerary just now but

1656
01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:12,000
phenomenology as a standalone a theme

1657
01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:15,000
throughout the series will be this

1658
01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:17,700
Edmund hussarel in the late 19th century

1659
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,079
founded the

1660
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,359
philosophical scientific movement of

1661
01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:23,039
phenomenology

1662
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:28,920
Cartesian Sciences which defines the

1663
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:31,920
universe by objects how fast they move

1664
01:07:35,870 --> 01:07:34,200
and how far away they are

1665
01:07:38,450 --> 01:07:35,880
phenomenology

1666
01:07:41,809 --> 01:07:38,460
bases its scientific conclusions purely

1667
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:41,819
on the experience and the structures of

1668
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:45,359
consciousness of an observer

1669
01:07:52,670 --> 01:07:49,740
so by interviewing 50 observers to out

1670
01:07:54,650 --> 01:07:52,680
to a phenomenon the phenomenologist

1671
01:07:56,089 --> 01:07:54,660
would claim to be

1672
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,099
closer

1673
01:08:00,049 --> 01:07:57,599
to the truth as to what that

1674
01:08:01,370 --> 01:08:00,059
phenomenology that phenomenon is then

1675
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,380
the scientist

1676
01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:03,599
trying to approach the answers from

1677
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,660
tables and a Cartesian method so

1678
01:08:11,809 --> 01:08:08,880
phenomenology is always looking towards

1679
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:11,819
the experience of the person so we're

1680
01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:13,140
going to be looking we're going to be

1681
01:08:16,669 --> 01:08:14,700
interviewing geologists we're going to

1682
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,679
be interviewing astronomers but we're

1683
01:08:21,169 --> 01:08:17,759
going to be interviewing them about

1684
01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:21,179
their opinions on what these phenomenon

1685
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:23,759
are and we're going to get it from there

1686
01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:26,400
I call it a logical approach I'd love to

1687
01:08:29,630 --> 01:08:27,179
hear

1688
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:29,640
rather than more ufologists that we

1689
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:31,020
interviewed last time I want to hear

1690
01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:33,299
about people that might bring a

1691
01:08:36,769 --> 01:08:35,100
different phenomenal logical

1692
01:08:38,809 --> 01:08:36,779
interpretation to the thing whether

1693
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:38,819
we're backing up the right tree thinking

1694
01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:40,020
it's to do with the change of the

1695
01:08:44,930 --> 01:08:42,420
seasons or whether because there's that

1696
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,940
this idea I have that it comes with the

1697
01:08:49,010 --> 01:08:46,799
change of the season

1698
01:08:50,689 --> 01:08:49,020
that brings with a change in temperature

1699
01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:50,699
so it could be something to do with

1700
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,620
temperatures it brings about a change in

1701
01:08:57,650 --> 01:08:55,920
high altitude lightning phenomenon it

1702
01:08:59,570 --> 01:08:57,660
brings about changes in the structure

1703
01:09:01,370 --> 01:08:59,580
within the valley itself so there could

1704
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,380
be all sorts of things that we're going

1705
01:09:05,329 --> 01:09:03,600
to get from as I say geologists

1706
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:05,339
climatologists we've got two interviews

1707
01:09:09,289 --> 01:09:07,620
set up so moving on from phenomenology

1708
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:09,299
looking at actual

1709
01:09:14,749 --> 01:09:12,719
what what people see in scientific terms

1710
01:09:16,729 --> 01:09:14,759
archeology

1711
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:16,739
what are the principal reasons for

1712
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:18,660
everybody coming is

1713
01:09:21,050 --> 01:09:19,920
we're going to be going I'm going to

1714
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:21,060
show you we're going to be going to some

1715
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:24,000
really iconic Colombian archaeological

1716
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:25,980
sites and I'm going to be showing the

1717
01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:27,239
story we're going to be telling the

1718
01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:29,160
story of the moiscus

1719
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,299
of the pre-columbian rituals that were

1720
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:35,839
conducted at Lake guatavita

1721
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,980
I know it's incredible I'm going to show

1722
01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:39,779
you a picture of it but the reason we're

1723
01:09:43,130 --> 01:09:41,640
going there is because on our kind of

1724
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:43,140
the second last day of the Expedition

1725
01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:45,420
I'm going to be taking everybody to

1726
01:09:49,970 --> 01:09:47,160
it's going to be the big one next year

1727
01:09:52,910 --> 01:09:49,980
for me for a long time we're going to an

1728
01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:52,920
archaeological site that a friend of

1729
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,440
mine initially discovered

1730
01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:57,360
with an indigenous

1731
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,260
um guide

1732
01:10:01,970 --> 01:10:00,239
and I've been working there with him for

1733
01:10:04,610 --> 01:10:01,980
the last three years and we are going to

1734
01:10:05,870 --> 01:10:04,620
now announce this to the world you know

1735
01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:05,880
here we go I'm going to come out with

1736
01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:07,800
one of these classic cheeky Hooks and

1737
01:10:11,150 --> 01:10:09,660
you're just gonna have to sit in your

1738
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:11,160
asses and wait for the day I'm not going

1739
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,719
to be putting any evidence out yet I'm

1740
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:13,920
not going to be talking about what it is

1741
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:15,719
but we're going to be filming an

1742
01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:18,320
undisclosed hitherto unknown

1743
01:10:23,450 --> 01:10:21,420
archaeological site with some really

1744
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,460
really interesting associations with the

1745
01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:25,199
phenomenon in the valley with the El

1746
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:27,900
cero mahoy the opposing Mountain dewica

1747
01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:30,360
the male the home of the male Mohan blue

1748
01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:33,900
light so archaeological story been told

1749
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:36,120
throughout the whole thing so sounds

1750
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:37,440
really complicated but when you see

1751
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:38,880
where we're going it's going to become

1752
01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:40,980
really clear we're going to tell

1753
01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:42,860
we're going to begin with the mythology

1754
01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:44,760
we're going to get into the

1755
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:46,620
phenomenological aspects and we're going

1756
01:10:50,209 --> 01:10:48,120
to end with the archaeological

1757
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,219
discoveries and conclusions

1758
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:58,310
so look did you say thanks to to

1759
01:11:04,850 --> 01:11:01,729
the who's the was it pixie

1760
01:11:08,330 --> 01:11:04,860
yeah Lara this is this was painted by

1761
01:11:13,070 --> 01:11:10,910
beautiful look at that with the three

1762
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:13,080
lights around the top absolutely

1763
01:11:16,669 --> 01:11:15,179
stunning so thank you Lara what I've

1764
01:11:18,830 --> 01:11:16,679
done is I've shown this because for the

1765
01:11:20,510 --> 01:11:18,840
first two nights when you're here the

1766
01:11:22,669 --> 01:11:20,520
Thirsty Holy Thursday and Holy Friday

1767
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:22,679
we're going to be observing Le Pena Dua

1768
01:11:27,169 --> 01:11:24,840
and this is on the right hand side and

1769
01:11:29,090 --> 01:11:27,179
indeed the picture of the left this is

1770
01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:29,100
the view or the aspect that we're going

1771
01:11:33,050 --> 01:11:30,840
to have from our property

1772
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:33,060
see that picture in the right there the

1773
01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:34,800
picture on the left is an interpretation

1774
01:11:39,229 --> 01:11:37,020
of the lights but on the picture in the

1775
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:39,239
right this is one I took in 2021 Vinnie

1776
01:11:44,930 --> 01:11:42,719
and it was suggested by a skeptic

1777
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:44,940
recently that not recently years ago

1778
01:11:50,750 --> 01:11:48,239
that the perhaps the phenomenon that

1779
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,760
that's witnessed on the top of waikap

1780
01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:52,800
is because people are standing deep in

1781
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,120
the valley and they're looking up at

1782
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,159
quite a gradient and maybe what they're

1783
01:12:00,830 --> 01:11:58,320
doing is seeing a star through the tree

1784
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:00,840
line maybe Venus so Venus was postulated

1785
01:12:05,390 --> 01:12:03,120
as a potential like a sort of contender

1786
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:05,400
for what people have been seen so what I

1787
01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:07,320
did was look at this on the right there

1788
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:09,540
that picture I took that picture at

1789
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:12,420
night with that's Venus in the sky and

1790
01:12:19,850 --> 01:12:16,020
look at the tip of waika Vinnie yep oh

1791
01:12:22,370 --> 01:12:19,860
yeah I recognize that uh yes you do it's

1792
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:22,380
exactly what we saw

1793
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:24,000
so that's the lights there I thought

1794
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:25,140
that was lovely that you would thank

1795
01:12:28,910 --> 01:12:26,760
Lara and then we get to go and show her

1796
01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:28,920
picture which is great I have that

1797
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:30,900
artwork I have that original artwork

1798
01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:34,080
that you see there on the left I have it

1799
01:12:39,229 --> 01:12:36,900
here in physical and it's actually a

1800
01:12:41,330 --> 01:12:39,239
prize for the charity raffle that we're

1801
01:12:43,610 --> 01:12:41,340
doing with UAP media UK and I can tell

1802
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:43,620
you right now is a beautiful drawing but

1803
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:46,560
in person when you unfold it and see it

1804
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,060
in person is

1805
01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:51,360
though it is so so special so for

1806
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:53,340
everyone out there can you take it with

1807
01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:54,659
you

1808
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:56,820
take it with me where here

1809
01:13:02,510 --> 01:13:00,300
no because it's a prize in our UAP media

1810
01:13:04,370 --> 01:13:02,520
charity raffle Christmas raffle because

1811
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,380
it's that good it's like one of the main

1812
01:13:08,270 --> 01:13:06,480
prizes I'll give you 20 quid for that

1813
01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:08,280
get it out there oh man it's worth a

1814
01:13:11,930 --> 01:13:09,960
hell of a lot more than 20 quid I'll

1815
01:13:14,330 --> 01:13:11,940
tell you that okay I'll get a problem

1816
01:13:17,390 --> 01:13:14,340
we've got the original it's worth way

1817
01:13:19,010 --> 01:13:17,400
more man so one lucky winner and I'm not

1818
01:13:23,470 --> 01:13:19,020
going to get sidetracked too much but

1819
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:25,970
with that dude please do go to my

1820
01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:28,260
Instagram and check out the post I put

1821
01:13:34,729 --> 01:13:32,580
out about that but you know I want it

1822
01:13:36,649 --> 01:13:34,739
all right cool it's beautiful anyway

1823
01:13:38,090 --> 01:13:36,659
moving on so that's the the

1824
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:38,100
interpretation on life but there's the

1825
01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:39,480
real thing on the right there's there's

1826
01:13:44,270 --> 01:13:42,600
an example of what we photograph here

1827
01:13:45,649 --> 01:13:44,280
as I say you know what's really funny oh

1828
01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:45,659
no let me know if you could go into that

1829
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:47,100
I just wanted to show this so we're in

1830
01:13:52,490 --> 01:13:49,920
tapio you know here is tabio that on the

1831
01:13:53,870 --> 01:13:52,500
left is there in the bottom is the tabio

1832
01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:53,880
in the valley at the entrance to the

1833
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,980
valley and there's Le Pena de waica so

1834
01:14:01,250 --> 01:13:57,840
it's easy to see why the residents of

1835
01:14:05,689 --> 01:14:01,260
tabio report these lights can you see my

1836
01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:08,090
yes all right nice one so let me show

1837
01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:11,580
you here here are The Thermals The tabio

1838
01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:15,000
Thermals with the the the Zeba or the

1839
01:14:19,550 --> 01:14:16,920
ruler from bakata once every six months

1840
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:19,560
would come here do homage to Waka the

1841
01:14:23,870 --> 01:14:21,360
goddess of the moon on the top of La

1842
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:23,880
Pena Dwight and he'd come down here now

1843
01:14:29,689 --> 01:14:26,520
those this see this line here this long

1844
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,699
line from the nipple on the top of waika

1845
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:31,679
if you go on to Google Maps and have a

1846
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:34,080
look at that it's called the Rutter

1847
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,280
delos avnis which is the UFO Road

1848
01:14:42,890 --> 01:14:41,040
yes in Google Maps because the lights

1849
01:14:47,090 --> 01:14:42,900
are seen here

1850
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:47,100
still there Vinnie

1851
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:48,900
I am I'm trying to deal with the chat at

1852
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,880
the same time my apologies no it's just

1853
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,080
when you go quieter start getting

1854
01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:53,760
nervous because I'm like just look at

1855
01:14:57,169 --> 01:14:55,500
the screen if my eyes I've got my chat

1856
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:57,179
to my right and I've got another screen

1857
01:15:01,490 --> 01:14:59,040
to I'm looking at a whole screen

1858
01:15:03,370 --> 01:15:01,500
presentation so I'm out here lost in the

1859
01:15:05,450 --> 01:15:03,380
ocean on like a canoe

1860
01:15:07,370 --> 01:15:05,460
no dude you've got this presentation

1861
01:15:09,649 --> 01:15:07,380
it's absolutely incredible right I'm

1862
01:15:12,110 --> 01:15:09,659
just going to keep on showing so we're

1863
01:15:14,510 --> 01:15:12,120
in tabio we've we've got the The Waker

1864
01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:14,520
it's um right in front of us but I want

1865
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:15,960
to take us along to play here look at

1866
01:15:19,250 --> 01:15:17,580
this thing on the right this is at the

1867
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:19,260
one of the parks that surrounds The

1868
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:21,060
Thermals there's these giant heads

1869
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:22,920
representing the gods and the goddesses

1870
01:15:31,729 --> 01:15:26,940
of La Pena de waika there are apparently

1871
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:31,739
we filmed this in 219 there are 19 giant

1872
01:15:37,130 --> 01:15:34,080
carved Gods heads on this mountain So

1873
01:15:40,130 --> 01:15:37,140
This Modern cement version is

1874
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:40,140
an honor to the Lost godheads of La Pena

1875
01:15:44,930 --> 01:15:41,940
Dwight imagine the mount had been so

1876
01:15:47,570 --> 01:15:44,940
important that they would carve 19 giant

1877
01:15:50,330 --> 01:15:47,580
Stone heads on the mountain

1878
01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:50,340
look we are going to be on day three

1879
01:15:56,110 --> 01:15:51,960
leaving tabio

1880
01:16:00,050 --> 01:15:56,120
we're going to begin to Bogota

1881
01:16:01,610 --> 01:16:00,060
in itself did is an absolute chaotic

1882
01:16:03,709 --> 01:16:01,620
nightmare it's like

1883
01:16:08,090 --> 01:16:03,719
a wheel seven o'clock in the morning

1884
01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:08,100
it's like four million 14 year olds get

1885
01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:10,620
on go-karts that can only go forward

1886
01:16:14,810 --> 01:16:13,080
that don't care what's behind her at the

1887
01:16:16,430 --> 01:16:14,820
side and we're going to do this we're

1888
01:16:17,570 --> 01:16:16,440
gonna we're gonna go and we're gonna do

1889
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,580
Bogota

1890
01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:19,440
and not do more guitar I hate people who

1891
01:16:23,689 --> 01:16:21,480
say I did Scotland but I did Australia

1892
01:16:27,130 --> 01:16:23,699
you don't do countries you visit them so

1893
01:16:30,649 --> 01:16:27,140
I take oh I'm so ready to do

1894
01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:30,659
oh we'll go for wine at lunchtime so the

1895
01:16:35,450 --> 01:16:32,940
Museum of gold is the largest collection

1896
01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:35,460
of gold in the world there's the museum

1897
01:16:42,590 --> 01:16:40,440
owns 55 million 55 million 55 000

1898
01:16:44,330 --> 01:16:42,600
different artifacts five and a half

1899
01:16:46,490 --> 01:16:44,340
thousand of them didn't display in the

1900
01:16:49,010 --> 01:16:46,500
museum itself now the reason I want to

1901
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:49,020
go there is not only to Furbish our

1902
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,640
story about the moiscus and the

1903
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:52,560
indigenous culture in Colombia who gave

1904
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:55,080
these offerings of gold and silver to

1905
01:17:01,910 --> 01:16:58,320
the gods and the goddesses but the gold

1906
01:17:04,189 --> 01:17:01,920
Museum owns the kimbaja aircraft or

1907
01:17:06,770 --> 01:17:04,199
otherwise known as told by Ancient

1908
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:06,780
Aliens as the what do they call them the

1909
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,000
king badge artifacts

1910
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:11,760
essentially these have been featured in

1911
01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:14,280
Ancient Aliens on that episode with you

1912
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,360
in it I know I forgot I did that five or

1913
01:17:22,370 --> 01:17:20,400
six five or six years ago I know because

1914
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:22,380
I'll tell you why because

1915
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:24,719
I'd always teetered around and stuff

1916
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:26,760
like that like interesting stuff manage

1917
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:28,500
aliens got in touch five or six years

1918
01:17:33,470 --> 01:17:31,140
ago asking me about it was thinking it's

1919
01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:33,480
about the golden SanDisk in Peru and it

1920
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:35,460
went out it's amazing very I flew to Los

1921
01:17:39,649 --> 01:17:37,920
Angeles and I was there for a night but

1922
01:17:41,390 --> 01:17:39,659
up in the hotel went along to this house

1923
01:17:43,490 --> 01:17:41,400
the next day and filmed my interview and

1924
01:17:45,709 --> 01:17:43,500
didn't talk about aliens or anything but

1925
01:17:48,590 --> 01:17:45,719
it was slotted into their show telling

1926
01:17:50,030 --> 01:17:48,600
their story and then I had I got quite a

1927
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,040
lot of [\h__\h] after doing it for people

1928
01:17:54,830 --> 01:17:53,040
that I quite respect myself so I regret

1929
01:17:56,689 --> 01:17:54,840
having done that but you know what now I

1930
01:17:59,450 --> 01:17:56,699
don't give a flying [\h__\h] you know what I

1931
01:18:02,090 --> 01:17:59,460
mean it was great fun and it was an

1932
01:18:05,450 --> 01:18:02,100
Insight but yeah Giorgio wears that one

1933
01:18:07,490 --> 01:18:05,460
of these artifacts around his neck so

1934
01:18:09,649 --> 01:18:07,500
here's what I want to do now I'm not

1935
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,659
gonna I'm this is gonna sound oh no he's

1936
01:18:13,090 --> 01:18:11,280
been a deck again but listen to what I

1937
01:18:15,550 --> 01:18:13,100
want to do

1938
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:15,560
it's really really

1939
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:18,719
inappropriate to say that these are

1940
01:18:23,810 --> 01:18:21,840
effects are ancient aircraft or flying

1941
01:18:26,750 --> 01:18:23,820
machines and let me tell you why

1942
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,760
I'm going to show you this at the Museum

1943
01:18:30,649 --> 01:18:29,040
if you give me any one of these

1944
01:18:32,689 --> 01:18:30,659
artifacts okay

1945
01:18:35,689 --> 01:18:32,699
I can take a Zoological book from

1946
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:35,699
Colombia from Amazonia in Colombia and I

1947
01:18:39,229 --> 01:18:38,040
can give you a catfish and a mosquito

1948
01:18:40,850 --> 01:18:39,239
type

1949
01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:40,860
the head of one and the body of another

1950
01:18:46,970 --> 01:18:43,260
and it will match these things I can

1951
01:18:51,530 --> 01:18:46,980
give you the the flippers of of a of a

1952
01:18:54,770 --> 01:18:51,540
swamp turtle with the head of a Jaguar

1953
01:18:56,090 --> 01:18:54,780
of what these represent Vanity's flying

1954
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:56,100
ancient craft

1955
01:18:59,870 --> 01:18:57,360
are

1956
01:19:02,090 --> 01:18:59,880
parts of the shamanic transitional

1957
01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:02,100
process between the German and his

1958
01:19:07,130 --> 01:19:04,860
animal form these are transitionary

1959
01:19:09,410 --> 01:19:07,140
animals and I want to tell that story to

1960
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:09,420
try and retain a modicum of respect for

1961
01:19:15,050 --> 01:19:12,480
these incredible ancient artifacts each

1962
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:15,060
one of them containing the story of

1963
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,800
thousands of years of indigenous

1964
01:19:21,770 --> 01:19:19,440
tradition of worshiping the animals in

1965
01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:21,780
nature that they're surrounded by but I

1966
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:22,980
want to tell that story but we've got to

1967
01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:25,440
have a look at them and we'll we can

1968
01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:27,900
have a play because in the museum of

1969
01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:29,400
gold you know there's actually people

1970
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:31,380
that do guides and stuff that believe

1971
01:19:36,250 --> 01:19:33,780
they are the ancient aliens and that

1972
01:19:38,930 --> 01:19:36,260
they are the ancient flying crafts

1973
01:19:41,209 --> 01:19:38,940
of course but either way let me rant on

1974
01:19:43,250 --> 01:19:41,219
about my skeptical crap let me just let

1975
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,260
me just really say like everything's

1976
01:19:46,910 --> 01:19:44,880
interpreted differently when you look at

1977
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:46,920
things isn't it like and that's the

1978
01:19:50,689 --> 01:19:48,900
beauty of where we all come from in

1979
01:19:52,189 --> 01:19:50,699
different things but can you see the

1980
01:19:55,790 --> 01:19:52,199
screen with me and you at the bottom

1981
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,800
right now Ash I can see can you see can

1982
01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:57,120
you see from the side of me there's like

1983
01:20:01,010 --> 01:19:59,460
a white stripe of just nothingness hang

1984
01:20:03,890 --> 01:20:01,020
on a minute let's try and minimize this

1985
01:20:07,010 --> 01:20:03,900
a little bit no no wait oh right you can

1986
01:20:08,570 --> 01:20:07,020
can you no I've got full screen wow I

1987
01:20:11,630 --> 01:20:08,580
can see uh

1988
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,640
but so just keep looking look to my

1989
01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:14,159
can you see where I'm pointing yeah

1990
01:20:17,209 --> 01:20:15,780
can you see what all you can see there

1991
01:20:19,610 --> 01:20:17,219
but watch this I'm going to do something

1992
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:19,620
magical right now cool there you go what

1993
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:30,590
there strong comes in like a UFO

1994
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:33,780
I mean like a wrecking ball fast and

1995
01:20:37,850 --> 01:20:36,000
unpredictable

1996
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:37,860
so please go back to your presentation

1997
01:20:46,270 --> 01:20:42,560
but I want to welcome uh phenomenology

1998
01:20:47,950 --> 01:20:46,280
co-compatriate and uh good friend Mr

1999
01:20:50,510 --> 01:20:47,960
danzettes

2000
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,520
thank you so much for coming to see you

2001
01:20:54,110 --> 01:20:52,560
guys it worked out really well but

2002
01:20:56,570 --> 01:20:54,120
please don't let me interrupt carry on

2003
01:20:58,030 --> 01:20:56,580
this was really interesting hang on a

2004
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:58,040
second

2005
01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:01,679
I'll say an hour and 20 minutes into our

2006
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:04,739
in our chat you arrive and the first

2007
01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:08,719
thing you see is sorry to interrupt

2008
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,400
not having that you can just you can

2009
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:13,199
just say get on with it or I'm sorry to

2010
01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:16,080
have interrupted again okay yeah I'm

2011
01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:17,940
sorry to have interrupted please carry

2012
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:21,060
on yeah or get on with it right so yeah

2013
01:21:24,410 --> 01:21:23,040
so listen enough information and again

2014
01:21:26,209 --> 01:21:24,420
we're off to the gold Museum and we're

2015
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,219
going to be filming all sorts of

2016
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,560
indigenous but look at this in the

2017
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:30,960
afternoon afterwards we're off to the

2018
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,120
Planetarium and we're gonna film with an

2019
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:35,520
astronomer in the planetarium a leading

2020
01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:38,760
Colombian astronomer who is he's the

2021
01:21:42,890 --> 01:21:40,739
he's published a book about UFOs but

2022
01:21:44,270 --> 01:21:42,900
he's a leading skeptic he has some

2023
01:21:47,330 --> 01:21:44,280
really really interesting

2024
01:21:50,090 --> 01:21:47,340
interpretations of the phenomenology and

2025
01:21:52,130 --> 01:21:50,100
the valley here but also in classic and

2026
01:21:56,030 --> 01:21:52,140
archetypal UFO cases from the last 50

2027
01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:56,040
years he presents some really Dynamic

2028
01:21:59,450 --> 01:21:58,020
um explanations but I must say the

2029
01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:59,460
reason I want to film with this guy is

2030
01:22:02,630 --> 01:22:00,360
because

2031
01:22:04,669 --> 01:22:02,640
he's the most respectful skeptic you're

2032
01:22:06,649 --> 01:22:04,679
ever going to meet he talks about the

2033
01:22:09,229 --> 01:22:06,659
eyewitness phenomenon back the

2034
01:22:11,209 --> 01:22:09,239
phenomenology of her sighting the actual

2035
01:22:14,330 --> 01:22:11,219
conscious experience of The Interpreter

2036
01:22:16,729 --> 01:22:14,340
person as being the key to understanding

2037
01:22:18,530 --> 01:22:16,739
what things actually are and he does

2038
01:22:20,990 --> 01:22:18,540
large-scale assessments of different

2039
01:22:25,729 --> 01:22:21,000
types of phenomenon whether it was blue

2040
01:22:27,050 --> 01:22:25,739
orb yellow-tailed light star pulsing and

2041
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:27,060
and so I want to go speak to him about

2042
01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:28,080
what he thinks all these

2043
01:22:32,990 --> 01:22:30,780
phenomenological eyewitness accounts in

2044
01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:33,000
Colombia represent and we're going to do

2045
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,620
that at the planetarium can you imagine

2046
01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:36,480
the troops in there filming in the

2047
01:22:39,610 --> 01:22:37,860
planetarium

2048
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,620
it's cool

2049
01:22:43,630 --> 01:22:42,000
I'm excited to see what the planetarium

2050
01:22:46,610 --> 01:22:43,640
is like uh

2051
01:22:48,830 --> 01:22:46,620
the the planetarium in New York was one

2052
01:22:50,930 --> 01:22:48,840
of my favorite places there so I I'm a

2053
01:22:52,370 --> 01:22:50,940
big lover of planetariums and just

2054
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,380
losing yourself in them I have to ask

2055
01:22:56,450 --> 01:22:54,480
Ash the planetarium on the left did they

2056
01:22:59,090 --> 01:22:56,460
intentionally make it look like a UFO or

2057
01:23:01,010 --> 01:22:59,100
what you're such a I can't believe you

2058
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,020
said that so there's other ones from the

2059
01:23:05,330 --> 01:23:03,840
side and it does absolutely look like a

2060
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:05,340
year full and I was putting this picture

2061
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,140
up and I thought either

2062
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:09,120
I've got to say it or Vinnie's going to

2063
01:23:15,050 --> 01:23:11,820
say that I was going to say you crash

2064
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,060
retrieval so so the story with this

2065
01:23:19,550 --> 01:23:17,460
story is my question has to be to you

2066
01:23:21,229 --> 01:23:19,560
before I can't answer you about it I've

2067
01:23:22,250 --> 01:23:21,239
been saying to look like you for let me

2068
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,260
ask you this

2069
01:23:27,050 --> 01:23:24,480
sure can you can you present me with a

2070
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:27,060
planetarium that does not look like a

2071
01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:29,280
UFO

2072
01:23:33,950 --> 01:23:31,560
um I guess because like the the

2073
01:23:36,770 --> 01:23:33,960
structure kind of follows the form right

2074
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:36,780
um the bubble in the middle but I the

2075
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,040
the reason it stood out to me is because

2076
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:40,560
when we visited the moisture tribe in

2077
01:23:46,430 --> 01:23:44,400
our first series the temple that we were

2078
01:23:48,590 --> 01:23:46,440
lucky enough to go in um the shaman

2079
01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:48,600
explained to me that uh it was based on

2080
01:23:52,430 --> 01:23:50,640
the shape of like the universe and we

2081
01:23:54,110 --> 01:23:52,440
spoke a little bit about how funny it

2082
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:54,120
was that the Universe reflected the

2083
01:23:57,649 --> 01:23:55,920
saucer kind of shape and it's a very

2084
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:57,659
present shape for them you know

2085
01:24:03,290 --> 01:24:01,199
it it's fascinating how that works the

2086
01:24:05,330 --> 01:24:03,300
chimney Gaga The Creator God is at the

2087
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:05,340
point of the roof and then the Hut and

2088
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:06,600
this is why the phenomenon is called

2089
01:24:11,570 --> 01:24:09,360
late ranchitos lit and glowing Huts

2090
01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:11,580
because the phenomenon reported with

2091
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:13,199
angled roofs

2092
01:24:19,550 --> 01:24:16,560
and then this straight side and you're

2093
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,560
right like or the Hut the temple does

2094
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:21,360
represent that and it but of course this

2095
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,800
represents the

2096
01:24:27,709 --> 01:24:25,199
the story of creation from the point of

2097
01:24:30,530 --> 01:24:27,719
creation to this manifestation on Earth

2098
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:30,540
itself but as you said turn it on its

2099
01:24:34,189 --> 01:24:32,100
side and it looks like a modern day

2100
01:24:38,530 --> 01:24:34,199
scientist's chart of the Big Bang but

2101
01:24:43,850 --> 01:24:41,750
so Walters just commented saying that

2102
01:24:46,130 --> 01:24:43,860
he's stoked about the uh planetarium

2103
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,140
good man I thought he would be any and I

2104
01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:48,480
thought it would be nice to because you

2105
01:24:52,430 --> 01:24:50,040
guys did all the interviewing last time

2106
01:24:53,530 --> 01:24:52,440
I thought because Walter he's got this

2107
01:24:59,810 --> 01:24:53,540
16

2108
01:25:01,850 --> 01:24:59,820
telescope guy he is the astronomer he

2109
01:25:03,709 --> 01:25:01,860
builds lenses let's maybe have Walter

2110
01:25:05,870 --> 01:25:03,719
interview the astronomer what do you

2111
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:05,880
think I think Walter needs to interview

2112
01:25:10,970 --> 01:25:08,000
all of us on that aspect

2113
01:25:13,010 --> 01:25:10,980
but I want Walter to be the one asking

2114
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:13,020
the questions that's what I do too I

2115
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,159
want to come up with questions enough

2116
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:16,800
because this guy is happy to talk about

2117
01:25:23,570 --> 01:25:19,199
phenomenon he believes there are

2118
01:25:24,890 --> 01:25:23,580
UAP he says safely but he and but he's

2119
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:24,900
um

2120
01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:26,760
he's got some things to say about the

2121
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:28,620
the value here that I think Walter's

2122
01:25:31,010 --> 01:25:29,760
gonna lie with I don't want to tell you

2123
01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:31,020
everything that's in his book he wrote

2124
01:25:35,149 --> 01:25:32,820
the book in Spanish it's called oveny's

2125
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,159
UFO was published last year imagine

2126
01:25:40,729 --> 01:25:38,400
wasn't this the ex-director of the

2127
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:40,739
Bogota planetarium coming forward last

2128
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,480
year a good here's a book for you before

2129
01:25:48,590 --> 01:25:45,840
I retire what is it UFOs everyone was

2130
01:25:50,570 --> 01:25:48,600
like because he was also the director of

2131
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:50,580
The Colombian Society for scientific

2132
01:25:55,550 --> 01:25:54,000
advances which brings them all into it

2133
01:25:57,709 --> 01:25:55,560
too and of course they're not shy to

2134
01:25:59,450 --> 01:25:57,719
talk about phenomenology ufology and

2135
01:26:03,709 --> 01:25:59,460
things out here at all it's part of

2136
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:06,350
yeah look I'm gonna get on to the next

2137
01:26:17,930 --> 01:26:13,310
[Laughter]

2138
01:26:20,110 --> 01:26:17,940
I say yes yes Walter you can do it look

2139
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:20,120
guys

2140
01:26:26,590 --> 01:26:23,280
oh I can't wait for this is my highlight

2141
01:26:33,470 --> 01:26:30,590
and Walter's been here filming with us

2142
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:33,480
six fact no total exaggeration five

2143
01:26:37,370 --> 01:26:34,800
years and I've always been here six

2144
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,380
times twice one year and he's not yet

2145
01:26:41,390 --> 01:26:39,840
been to Lake Buena Vida so I can't wait

2146
01:26:43,610 --> 01:26:41,400
for him to get our new drone up over

2147
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:43,620
Laguna guadavida imagine our visuals

2148
01:26:47,810 --> 01:26:46,320
filming this and it's and we're just

2149
01:26:50,209 --> 01:26:47,820
gonna have been at the Gold Museum in

2150
01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:50,219
Bogota and found the most iconic

2151
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,260
archaeological Discovery in Colombia's

2152
01:26:57,290 --> 01:26:54,960
history with the Barca De Oro the golden

2153
01:27:00,590 --> 01:26:57,300
raft which was discovered in which which

2154
01:27:02,510 --> 01:27:00,600
is emblematic for a ritual that was

2155
01:27:05,090 --> 01:27:02,520
performed at Lake Buena Vida the ritual

2156
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:05,100
was known as the el hombre Del Dorado

2157
01:27:10,970 --> 01:27:08,639
which was misinterpreted as the city of

2158
01:27:13,370 --> 01:27:10,980
El Dorado and kind of seeded the whole

2159
01:27:16,430 --> 01:27:13,380
quest for the lost city of gold it began

2160
01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:16,440
as a ritual at this Lake where uh

2161
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:18,840
Thriller to be covered in powdered gold

2162
01:27:24,169 --> 01:27:21,600
was floated out into this Laguna raft we

2163
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,179
jump into the water when he surfaced all

2164
01:27:28,729 --> 01:27:26,400
the local people thousands of them threw

2165
01:27:32,090 --> 01:27:28,739
their offerings of golden so on the

2166
01:27:34,370 --> 01:27:32,100
right there you can see can deal my mate

2167
01:27:37,010 --> 01:27:34,380
the leader of the say skill Community

2168
01:27:40,450 --> 01:27:37,020
who guard guatavita and Josh gates from

2169
01:27:43,370 --> 01:27:40,460
discoveries what's that called x-axis

2170
01:27:45,709 --> 01:27:43,380
so there's me rattling on to Josh there

2171
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:45,719
about the legend of El Dorado and how

2172
01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:47,400
it's important we see it for what it is

2173
01:27:51,970 --> 01:27:50,280
which is a an ancient King making ritual

2174
01:27:54,890 --> 01:27:51,980
rather than

2175
01:27:56,090 --> 01:27:54,900
this idea of a lost city of gold so

2176
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,100
we're going to tell that story when

2177
01:28:00,050 --> 01:27:57,600
we're there but candil's going to take

2178
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,060
us Beyond where Josh and I felt we're

2179
01:28:04,250 --> 01:28:02,159
going to be going to this ritualistic

2180
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:04,260
platform that overlooks guadaveta and

2181
01:28:10,970 --> 01:28:07,280
the reason we're going there is because

2182
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:10,980
in episode 3 of season one Dan if you

2183
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:14,159
recall candil told us that their night

2184
01:28:20,090 --> 01:28:17,100
Watchmen see what they report as golden

2185
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:20,100
serpents in Lake cuativita

2186
01:28:24,350 --> 01:28:22,080
we asked them if these were lights or

2187
01:28:26,450 --> 01:28:24,360
serpents and he said all of these

2188
01:28:29,390 --> 01:28:26,460
volcanic plugs these lagoons or several

2189
01:28:32,570 --> 01:28:29,400
of them are connected by underwater

2190
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:32,580
tunnels which they know as Bortles

2191
01:28:37,129 --> 01:28:35,040
that the lights travel and Emit and do

2192
01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:37,139
funny things with these lagoons so he's

2193
01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:38,699
going to take us and show us where they

2194
01:28:42,110 --> 01:28:40,860
see these night serpents and we're going

2195
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:42,120
to stay there in tonight we're going to

2196
01:28:44,810 --> 01:28:43,440
stay till about eight nine at night it's

2197
01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:44,820
gonna drop to eight degrees and we're

2198
01:28:49,490 --> 01:28:46,860
gonna see if anything happens because

2199
01:28:51,050 --> 01:28:49,500
remember we're on this week where the

2200
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:51,060
climate changes these lagoons are

2201
01:28:55,490 --> 01:28:53,280
filling up there's a huge amount of

2202
01:28:58,010 --> 01:28:55,500
geothermal pressure in the Andes at that

2203
01:29:00,350 --> 01:28:58,020
time so a great time to do a bit of

2204
01:29:03,649 --> 01:29:00,360
night watching at guadaveda and see what

2205
01:29:07,490 --> 01:29:03,659
exactly those night Watchmen are seeing

2206
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:07,500
both asks can we fish the lake trout

2207
01:29:13,129 --> 01:29:09,900
I am not I'm not gonna answer it I'm

2208
01:29:15,470 --> 01:29:13,139
just gonna say I'm not surprised you did

2209
01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:15,480
because I've just commented saying alien

2210
01:29:19,070 --> 01:29:17,100
trout Walter

2211
01:29:21,010 --> 01:29:19,080
so let me tell you this because we're on

2212
01:29:26,270 --> 01:29:21,020
your channel let me tell you this so

2213
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:26,280
1993 a Venezuelan Carpenter was on weak

2214
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,260
sabbatical to Lake wedavita with the

2215
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:30,420
candle in this community

2216
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:32,639
he got up that night and he walked to

2217
01:29:36,290 --> 01:29:34,560
the platform where we're going and he

2218
01:29:40,189 --> 01:29:36,300
claims he saw

2219
01:29:42,110 --> 01:29:40,199
two silver discs entering the Laguna and

2220
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:42,120
them themselves turning into golden

2221
01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:45,120
serpents so we should probably talk he's

2222
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:47,100
if you were to Google Lake Buena Vita

2223
01:29:50,930 --> 01:29:48,719
orphanese there's this famous story

2224
01:29:52,669 --> 01:29:50,940
about twin UFOs so that's another cool

2225
01:29:55,310 --> 01:29:52,679
reason for goodness wait this is this is

2226
01:29:59,570 --> 01:29:55,320
this is huge because that's two disc

2227
01:30:00,890 --> 01:29:59,580
shaped UFOs entering the water and this

2228
01:30:02,510 --> 01:30:00,900
is everything I'm going to be talking

2229
01:30:04,750 --> 01:30:02,520
about for the last couple of years in

2230
01:30:08,990 --> 01:30:04,760
the UFO Community this is

2231
01:30:10,910 --> 01:30:09,000
transmedium Usos UFOs you know Lake

2232
01:30:13,850 --> 01:30:10,920
gratavita I saw the episode with Josh

2233
01:30:15,169 --> 01:30:13,860
Gates and we didn't talk about that that

2234
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:15,179
was but I thought it's interesting

2235
01:30:20,350 --> 01:30:18,000
because so that's that story I just told

2236
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:20,360
you about the two

2237
01:30:25,729 --> 01:30:23,760
UFO discs and it is kind of like what

2238
01:30:27,169 --> 01:30:25,739
would that be like that would be like um

2239
01:30:29,390 --> 01:30:27,179
say the

2240
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:29,400
a case in America it's not quite Roswell

2241
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:31,620
not quite Betty Barney Hill not quite as

2242
01:30:34,610 --> 01:30:33,360
iconic as the Tic Tac but just like a

2243
01:30:37,250 --> 01:30:34,620
kind of middle of the road case but it's

2244
01:30:39,709 --> 01:30:37,260
been here for 30 years okay I'll take it

2245
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:39,719
absolutely and I you know I'm all

2246
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:42,239
excited about what's what what reflects

2247
01:30:47,390 --> 01:30:44,880
in the Lagoon from this platform that

2248
01:30:50,030 --> 01:30:47,400
maybe perhaps doesn't reflect under

2249
01:30:51,649 --> 01:30:50,040
other circumstances because remember the

2250
01:30:54,530 --> 01:30:51,659
greatest ritual of the year is played

2251
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,540
when the moon that performs its Zenit

2252
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,880
above the Laguna when it's full and you

2253
01:31:00,290 --> 01:30:58,320
look into the Lagoon and you see the

2254
01:31:01,490 --> 01:31:00,300
great big disc of cheer the moon in the

2255
01:31:04,370 --> 01:31:01,500
air so

2256
01:31:07,550 --> 01:31:04,380
for someone to see a shining desk in

2257
01:31:10,010 --> 01:31:07,560
guadaveda I'll I'll give you your chance

2258
01:31:11,629 --> 01:31:10,020
we'll go with it but there's several

2259
01:31:13,970 --> 01:31:11,639
shining discs that we could consider

2260
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:13,980
prior to the one that came from alpha

2261
01:31:18,169 --> 01:31:15,600
century

2262
01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:18,179
wow wow so anyway there we go we're

2263
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:19,860
getting private access to like whatever

2264
01:31:23,629 --> 01:31:21,840
and I remember I want you to all be

2265
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:23,639
totting this up because we're going to

2266
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:25,679
get to the price at the end when we're

2267
01:31:29,149 --> 01:31:27,179
asking Fork all right so this is all

2268
01:31:31,010 --> 01:31:29,159
I'll be Vlog I'll be vlogging this for

2269
01:31:32,750 --> 01:31:31,020
like Instagram and stuff so don't we

2270
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:32,760
good man

2271
01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:35,280
so after Lake whatever we do so this is

2272
01:31:40,010 --> 01:31:37,260
us this is all HQ based for the first

2273
01:31:41,450 --> 01:31:40,020
four days we've been to tabular thermals

2274
01:31:44,090 --> 01:31:41,460
we're filming at night on Holy Friday

2275
01:31:46,010 --> 01:31:44,100
we're going to the Planetarium we're

2276
01:31:48,410 --> 01:31:46,020
going to the gold Museum we're going to

2277
01:31:50,390 --> 01:31:48,420
Lake guadavita and then

2278
01:31:52,430 --> 01:31:50,400
we head north we're going to be going

2279
01:31:54,830 --> 01:31:52,440
about five hours Drive North into the

2280
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,840
really really hot part of Colombia is

2281
01:31:59,330 --> 01:31:56,400
like a different climate altogether it's

2282
01:32:02,030 --> 01:31:59,340
essentially the desert the reason I put

2283
01:32:04,490 --> 01:32:02,040
the picture in them left is because that

2284
01:32:06,770 --> 01:32:04,500
that is not a movie set the town is in

2285
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:06,780
its traditional 500 year old format

2286
01:32:11,330 --> 01:32:09,120
video deliver is one of the First

2287
01:32:13,550 --> 01:32:11,340
Colonial towns of Colombia is an

2288
01:32:15,890 --> 01:32:13,560
absolute mind-blowing experience

2289
01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:15,900
everything's 400 years old or the plazas

2290
01:32:20,030 --> 01:32:17,580
all the Rocks all the horses all the

2291
01:32:23,090 --> 01:32:20,040
shops all the people maintain the

2292
01:32:25,790 --> 01:32:23,100
village the traditions of it but it's

2293
01:32:27,649 --> 01:32:25,800
also the center of astronomy in Colombia

2294
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:27,659
because the skies are so clear and it's

2295
01:32:31,790 --> 01:32:28,860
so high

2296
01:32:33,770 --> 01:32:31,800
what's exciting is on Holy Week as you

2297
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:33,780
can see on the right people come along

2298
01:32:37,729 --> 01:32:35,699
with telescopes from all over Colombia

2299
01:32:40,610 --> 01:32:37,739
and show them off like a low rider rally

2300
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:40,620
they show off their big telescopes so

2301
01:32:43,490 --> 01:32:41,760
we're going to go up there and we're

2302
01:32:45,169 --> 01:32:43,500
going to interact with astronomers now

2303
01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:45,179
this is what's funny

2304
01:32:48,350 --> 01:32:46,920
we're gonna go out we're gonna we're

2305
01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:48,360
gonna be staying in this traditional

2306
01:32:51,290 --> 01:32:49,800
place with eight bedrooms we're going to

2307
01:32:54,169 --> 01:32:51,300
go out that night drink too much beer

2308
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:54,179
and wine and the next day we're meeting

2309
01:32:59,930 --> 01:32:57,600
this guy and he is a very well respected

2310
01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:59,940
astronomer in the Astronomical Society

2311
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,199
of Colombia

2312
01:33:05,870 --> 01:33:03,360
but he's a bit of a thorn in this side

2313
01:33:08,450 --> 01:33:05,880
because this guy in his Observatory big

2314
01:33:11,810 --> 01:33:08,460
Square garage with

2315
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:11,820
that roof that opens up in the night but

2316
01:33:20,030 --> 01:33:15,120
it's completely emblazoned with green

2317
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,040
fluffy aliens he's a UFO alien Maniac if

2318
01:33:26,330 --> 01:33:22,560
I can say such a word so and he's got

2319
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:26,340
big telescopes so listen to this the

2320
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:27,840
reason we're meeting them is because his

2321
01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:29,760
friend the guy were interviewing at the

2322
01:33:38,270 --> 01:33:31,020
planetarium

2323
01:33:40,610 --> 01:33:38,280
he's had three sightings of anomalous

2324
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:40,620
phenomenon even though he's written a

2325
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:43,260
book called UFOs as a skeptic he said

2326
01:33:46,430 --> 01:33:44,880
three of three occasions I'm not gonna

2327
01:33:48,350 --> 01:33:46,440
bore you with this other two but this is

2328
01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:48,360
why religious liver

2329
01:33:53,209 --> 01:33:51,060
he was at the Colombian astronomical

2330
01:33:54,649 --> 01:33:53,219
conference in 2021 last year and

2331
01:33:56,209 --> 01:33:54,659
featured the Weber

2332
01:33:58,010 --> 01:33:56,219
and they were outside for a cigarette

2333
01:34:00,890 --> 01:33:58,020
having three astronomers

2334
01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:00,900
and they looked to the south in Vita

2335
01:34:06,050 --> 01:34:03,360
deliver and they saw an orange ball

2336
01:34:08,510 --> 01:34:06,060
coming over the hill and this man turned

2337
01:34:10,669 --> 01:34:08,520
his two colleagues and said isn't it

2338
01:34:12,830 --> 01:34:10,679
just a splendid coincidence that on our

2339
01:34:16,490 --> 01:34:12,840
conference week a meteor would come in

2340
01:34:18,890 --> 01:34:16,500
and they were aghast at it but he said

2341
01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:18,900
rather than continuing its course over

2342
01:34:27,050 --> 01:34:22,500
the opposing Horizon it stopped it

2343
01:34:31,490 --> 01:34:29,270
this is the ex director of planetarium

2344
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,500
telling us he saw that and he's he saw

2345
01:34:37,250 --> 01:34:34,800
but he cannot and explain what that is

2346
01:34:39,830 --> 01:34:37,260
and he saw two other however the reason

2347
01:34:42,649 --> 01:34:39,840
we're here is because what he saw in a

2348
01:34:44,990 --> 01:34:42,659
broader context is is a phenomenon of

2349
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:45,000
vegetable no it's very similar to what

2350
01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:46,920
we got what we have in waika and it's

2351
01:34:50,830 --> 01:34:48,780
known as this

2352
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:50,840
is

2353
01:34:56,689 --> 01:34:53,760
strange star

2354
01:34:58,610 --> 01:34:56,699
for 200 years at least above each of the

2355
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:58,620
labor people have reported an orange

2356
01:35:03,370 --> 01:35:00,960
star in the sky that moves to the left

2357
01:35:06,410 --> 01:35:03,380
moves to the right sinks up the sky

2358
01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:06,420
rises in altitude so

2359
01:35:11,090 --> 01:35:08,760
again it's a wonderful thing with 200

2360
01:35:13,129 --> 01:35:11,100
years of tradition perhaps the

2361
01:35:15,229 --> 01:35:13,139
ex-director of the planetarium saw it

2362
01:35:18,590 --> 01:35:15,239
himself he certainly tells that story

2363
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:18,600
but I want to go and see if Oslo on Holy

2364
01:35:24,729 --> 01:35:22,080
Week in video labor can spot this

2365
01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:24,739
strange star or whatever that might be

2366
01:35:30,050 --> 01:35:27,960
absolutely going off hunting for the

2367
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,060
strange star that's just a documentary

2368
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:31,679
series on its own isn't it the strange

2369
01:35:36,169 --> 01:35:34,320
star God yeah absolutely Ash I got a

2370
01:35:38,270 --> 01:35:36,179
little request of you as well like again

2371
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:38,280
something up your screen just go back to

2372
01:35:42,590 --> 01:35:39,840
the way it was when you look to that

2373
01:35:44,689 --> 01:35:42,600
thing on the side you know

2374
01:35:47,629 --> 01:35:44,699
oh wait a minute I know what you're

2375
01:35:51,129 --> 01:35:47,639
gonna do here this is like that thing

2376
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:54,229
this actually Mr Ashley cowardly would

2377
01:36:04,370 --> 01:36:00,910
introduce our newest member of the team

2378
01:36:07,729 --> 01:36:04,380
and please everybody Welcome the newest

2379
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:07,739
member of phenomenology for season two

2380
01:36:14,689 --> 01:36:12,000
Elena Elena who are you hello welcome

2381
01:36:22,209 --> 01:36:14,699
it's good to be a part of the team thank

2382
01:36:26,990 --> 01:36:24,590
of course I was gonna surprise you man

2383
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:27,000
you know what I'm like I didn't expect

2384
01:36:30,770 --> 01:36:29,040
this at all I thought I was going to

2385
01:36:32,990 --> 01:36:30,780
switch off and switch on and it was

2386
01:36:35,450 --> 01:36:33,000
going to be Walter that's what I was

2387
01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:35,460
expecting and I was about to say when

2388
01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,960
you said the news member of the team I'm

2389
01:36:41,390 --> 01:36:38,400
like no he's not

2390
01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:41,400
no listen Elena has been so vocal in the

2391
01:36:45,169 --> 01:36:42,840
comments and I just thought it was like

2392
01:36:47,450 --> 01:36:45,179
I tweeted again you've got to come on

2393
01:36:49,310 --> 01:36:47,460
like come on come on Elena is always

2394
01:36:50,990 --> 01:36:49,320
making any more sense to you after this

2395
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:51,000
chat I've been having with Vinnie a year

2396
01:36:54,169 --> 01:36:52,800
anymore looking forward to it oh I don't

2397
01:36:56,570 --> 01:36:54,179
think could look forward to it anymore

2398
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,580
I've got so many questions especially

2399
01:37:00,729 --> 01:36:58,320
that planetarium trip we're gonna have

2400
01:37:03,530 --> 01:37:00,739
oh we're gonna have so much fun

2401
01:37:05,149 --> 01:37:03,540
so far you know what Elena's been on the

2402
01:37:06,890 --> 01:37:05,159
team and this is her second time with us

2403
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:06,900
and we've been talking the things you've

2404
01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:09,360
showed interest mostly is but she kind

2405
01:37:12,970 --> 01:37:11,400
of aligns with Walter a lot it's you

2406
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:12,980
jumped when I said there's maybe

2407
01:37:17,570 --> 01:37:15,600
climatological electrical phenomena

2408
01:37:19,970 --> 01:37:17,580
grown in the valley and you jump when we

2409
01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:19,980
talk about astronomy more so than we

2410
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:22,020
talk about the spirits of dead moisters

2411
01:37:30,410 --> 01:37:27,709
well listen I'll tell you one right now

2412
01:37:32,510 --> 01:37:30,420
I've seen every day I see Elena's posts

2413
01:37:34,010 --> 01:37:32,520
on Twitter and stuff she posted

2414
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:34,020
something today about her books and she

2415
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:35,760
showed like some spines of some books

2416
01:37:40,729 --> 01:37:37,920
and it was like Keel and all these

2417
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:40,739
amazing books and I was just like this

2418
01:37:47,330 --> 01:37:43,679
girl is so far intellectually Advanced

2419
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:47,340
from myself that I cannot wait for her

2420
01:37:52,990 --> 01:37:49,199
to be a part of the team and to just

2421
01:37:56,990 --> 01:37:55,310
well that's what's so cool about what

2422
01:37:58,910 --> 01:37:57,000
you're doing is diversity of

2423
01:38:01,850 --> 01:37:58,920
perspectives that you bring together and

2424
01:38:04,430 --> 01:38:01,860
the compassionate intentions behind this

2425
01:38:06,410 --> 01:38:04,440
this endeavor so that's amazing for you

2426
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,420
to say that's a really amazing bit like

2427
01:38:09,770 --> 01:38:08,159
we we formed a really good team in

2428
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:09,780
season one but I feel like you've now

2429
01:38:14,990 --> 01:38:12,360
added to the fact that we're gonna have

2430
01:38:17,709 --> 01:38:15,000
an even like almost like a supercharged

2431
01:38:17,719 --> 01:38:31,430
season two yeah for season two

2432
01:38:37,610 --> 01:38:33,709
I'm so sorry no I can't do like that

2433
01:38:40,910 --> 01:38:37,620
what do you mean yeah it was me I'll own

2434
01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:40,920
this I'll own this this is like a sketch

2435
01:38:44,030 --> 01:38:42,780
from airplane isn't it everybody comes

2436
01:38:45,950 --> 01:38:44,040
in and it drops me go sorry for

2437
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:45,960
interrupting that if you were sorry for

2438
01:38:49,910 --> 01:38:48,000
interrupting you wouldn't be here that's

2439
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,920
the truth that dude that's true I'm not

2440
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:51,600
sorry but I love you we're getting proud

2441
01:38:58,490 --> 01:38:54,080
to interrupt you Ash please

2442
01:39:00,169 --> 01:38:58,500
exactly let's keep things clear here I I

2443
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:00,179
don't know how to do my full screen

2444
01:39:05,570 --> 01:39:02,639
thing again I've put that Vibe I've lost

2445
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:05,580
completely that kind of focus I love I

2446
01:39:10,970 --> 01:39:08,880
love live streaming how would I do share

2447
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:10,980
how would I go full screen Dan you know

2448
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:13,800
the stuff I think window on the top

2449
01:39:22,610 --> 01:39:17,520
window slideshow look at that

2450
01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:22,620
um window and next one no no no no don't

2451
01:39:27,530 --> 01:39:25,260
play from current slide no not from the

2452
01:39:29,570 --> 01:39:27,540
start no because I system through Vinnie

2453
01:39:32,209 --> 01:39:29,580
I'm not

2454
01:39:34,669 --> 01:39:32,219
okay here we go so all right I will pick

2455
01:39:36,370 --> 01:39:34,679
back up then I'm gonna try to regain my

2456
01:39:39,290 --> 01:39:36,380
mojo

2457
01:39:41,570 --> 01:39:39,300
we were indeed to live on yeah I got

2458
01:39:43,910 --> 01:39:41,580
this we're in video deliver and we've

2459
01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:43,920
just been at this guy's astronomical

2460
01:39:48,649 --> 01:39:46,620
Center which and he's a full-on 100

2461
01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:48,659
believer visitors from other planets

2462
01:39:52,430 --> 01:39:50,880
whereas his buddy in the planetarium in

2463
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:52,440
Bogota isn't but between the two of them

2464
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,760
we're going to get some great stories

2465
01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:56,639
about UAP and this strange star so

2466
01:40:01,280 --> 01:39:57,900
Vinnie you'll love this place for

2467
01:40:01,290 --> 01:40:08,470
[Laughter]

2468
01:40:16,729 --> 01:40:12,790
I think it's a penis joke it's uh

2469
01:40:20,990 --> 01:40:16,739
uh I see what you did there man

2470
01:40:25,550 --> 01:40:23,629
I I so we'll we'll start with a picture

2471
01:40:28,669 --> 01:40:25,560
on the left

2472
01:40:30,530 --> 01:40:28,679
um El infernito was five miles from Fiji

2473
01:40:32,750 --> 01:40:30,540
to deliver Ellen Furniture was the

2474
01:40:34,729 --> 01:40:32,760
oldest pre-columbian standing Stone

2475
01:40:37,790 --> 01:40:34,739
moisture site in the country there's

2476
01:40:39,470 --> 01:40:37,800
nothing older it's a lunar chronometer

2477
01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:39,480
it's a

2478
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,239
Looney solar calendar

2479
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:45,360
it's a predictor of seasonal climate

2480
01:40:50,810 --> 01:40:48,960
change El Nino e La Nina the dry and wet

2481
01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:50,820
phenomenal phenomenon that affects the

2482
01:40:55,850 --> 01:40:53,760
whole of South America and this these

2483
01:40:57,290 --> 01:40:55,860
this Matrix of stone alignments aligns

2484
01:41:00,350 --> 01:40:57,300
with

2485
01:41:02,270 --> 01:41:00,360
a held known as Santa Barbara Hill

2486
01:41:04,430 --> 01:41:02,280
if we follow the alignment from this

2487
01:41:07,250 --> 01:41:04,440
Stone to Santa Barbara Hill to the

2488
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:07,260
Equinox alignment from El infernito it

2489
01:41:11,570 --> 01:41:08,880
identifies the hell that the strange

2490
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,580
star is noted above leading to the

2491
01:41:15,649 --> 01:41:13,679
question how long has the strange star

2492
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:15,659
been observed in Colombia wherever that

2493
01:41:21,410 --> 01:41:18,420
strange star might be also from this

2494
01:41:22,970 --> 01:41:21,420
site in a Hell beside this this Santa

2495
01:41:25,790 --> 01:41:22,980
Barbara Hill

2496
01:41:28,850 --> 01:41:25,800
on Holy Week it's reported that there's

2497
01:41:31,610 --> 01:41:28,860
a flickering blue and orange flame that

2498
01:41:33,709 --> 01:41:31,620
appears to move along the hill it

2499
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:33,719
appears to Arc above the hill and then

2500
01:41:37,850 --> 01:41:36,239
vanishes after about an hour

2501
01:41:40,850 --> 01:41:37,860
so we're going to be there on that week

2502
01:41:42,109 --> 01:41:40,860
and again from lymphonito we're going to

2503
01:41:43,550 --> 01:41:42,119
have an early start there but we're

2504
01:41:46,370 --> 01:41:43,560
going to be telling the story of the

2505
01:41:49,129 --> 01:41:46,380
moiscus of their astronomy of their

2506
01:41:50,750 --> 01:41:49,139
mythology of their ritualization of the

2507
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,760
landscape or the lagoons and the

2508
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:52,320
mountains everything here had a male or

2509
01:41:57,890 --> 01:41:55,679
a female denomination and what's bizarre

2510
01:42:00,590 --> 01:41:57,900
with that is the mountains and Hills

2511
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:00,600
associated with red mohana lights

2512
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:03,360
are associated with female goddess Chia

2513
01:42:07,070 --> 01:42:05,280
and the Mohan are associated with the

2514
01:42:08,750 --> 01:42:07,080
male mountains so we're going to be

2515
01:42:11,950 --> 01:42:08,760
telling that story from El infernito

2516
01:42:15,050 --> 01:42:11,960
because this site's related to the sky

2517
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:15,060
the sky was generally an indigenous

2518
01:42:20,270 --> 01:42:17,760
mythologies and and cosmologies

2519
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,280
interpreted as as a male entity

2520
01:42:25,450 --> 01:42:23,040
so you can see all stones are phallic

2521
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:25,460
because it's a male site relating to

2522
01:42:31,609 --> 01:42:27,960
alignments in the sky whereas if it was

2523
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,619
a a site built for honor of goddess of

2524
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:34,080
worship of the Goddess fertility goddess

2525
01:42:39,770 --> 01:42:37,440
patch or Mama it's going to be um

2526
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:39,780
it's going to be yonic you're going to

2527
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:42,000
see vaginal shaped stones and carvings

2528
01:42:45,709 --> 01:42:43,679
so we're going to be there exploring

2529
01:42:47,629 --> 01:42:45,719
this whole thing ill infernito the

2530
01:42:48,830 --> 01:42:47,639
little hell and the Spanish when they

2531
01:42:50,330 --> 01:42:48,840
arrived here they called it the little

2532
01:42:53,390 --> 01:42:50,340
hell because they knew it was the heart

2533
01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:53,400
of moist culture so what was the god of

2534
01:42:57,229 --> 01:42:55,320
the old religions the positive god of

2535
01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:57,239
the old religion simply became the devil

2536
01:43:01,669 --> 01:43:00,480
of the new and this site known as little

2537
01:43:03,050 --> 01:43:01,679
hell

2538
01:43:05,450 --> 01:43:03,060
that's why there's loads of standing

2539
01:43:06,649 --> 01:43:05,460
stones in the UK known as devil stones

2540
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:06,659
and

2541
01:43:11,689 --> 01:43:09,360
so this is my favorite the day after

2542
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:11,699
we're at soccer mosa Adele infernito

2543
01:43:15,530 --> 01:43:14,159
we're going to the oldest Temple in the

2544
01:43:18,649 --> 01:43:15,540
country the Temple of the Sun in

2545
01:43:22,189 --> 01:43:18,659
sogamoso it's an enormous wooden Sun

2546
01:43:26,030 --> 01:43:22,199
Temple that in when the Spanish arrived

2547
01:43:29,209 --> 01:43:26,040
in the early 1350s

2548
01:43:32,209 --> 01:43:29,219
um no in the early 1700s the early 1600

2549
01:43:35,450 --> 01:43:32,219
17th century Pedro Kobo recorded that

2550
01:43:38,330 --> 01:43:35,460
there were more priests in attendant at

2551
01:43:40,609 --> 01:43:38,340
this Temple than a Mecca

2552
01:43:43,310 --> 01:43:40,619
we're talking 16

2553
01:43:45,229 --> 01:43:43,320
000 solar priests in attendant to the hi

2554
01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:45,239
Zaki ruler of this Temple we're getting

2555
01:43:49,550 --> 01:43:47,940
in to have a look do a small ritual with

2556
01:43:51,169 --> 01:43:49,560
the people that look after it and we're

2557
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:51,179
going to do virtually what we did in

2558
01:43:56,930 --> 01:43:54,000
episode three of season one but again

2559
01:43:59,209 --> 01:43:56,940
we're learning the story of Damascus in

2560
01:44:01,250 --> 01:43:59,219
one of the holiest cities in Colombia

2561
01:44:03,649 --> 01:44:01,260
it's going to be crazy up there so the

2562
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,659
most is going to be because we're going

2563
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:05,040
to be there in a Holy Week all right

2564
01:44:09,229 --> 01:44:07,920
it's going to be alive all the Maria's

2565
01:44:10,850 --> 01:44:09,239
are going to be out getting presented

2566
01:44:12,410 --> 01:44:10,860
around the streets all the carnival

2567
01:44:15,250 --> 01:44:12,420
people will be out getting pissed up

2568
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,260
it'll just be great fun

2569
01:44:19,970 --> 01:44:17,280
Holy Week

2570
01:44:22,490 --> 01:44:19,980
so after that we're coming south we're

2571
01:44:24,530 --> 01:44:22,500
going to be stopping a town called

2572
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:24,540
tour Mickey

2573
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:28,800
is the home of the national sport of

2574
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,679
Colombia which is known as tejo

2575
01:44:36,770 --> 01:44:33,600
tejo

2576
01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:36,780
is when a player has a metallic

2577
01:44:40,370 --> 01:44:37,980
disc

2578
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:40,380
and he throws it through the air

2579
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:43,260
against a platform of fireworks

2580
01:44:48,770 --> 01:44:46,080
gunpowder and paper so we're going to be

2581
01:44:52,970 --> 01:44:48,780
going to the home of turmercare and the

2582
01:44:55,729 --> 01:44:52,980
reason why is the ex-director

2583
01:44:56,750 --> 01:44:55,739
of the Geological Society of Latin

2584
01:44:59,689 --> 01:44:56,760
America

2585
01:45:03,649 --> 01:44:59,699
said this two years ago

2586
01:45:06,830 --> 01:45:03,659
so often in turmerce did the indigenous

2587
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:06,840
moiscus watch metallic discs flying

2588
01:45:11,930 --> 01:45:09,119
through the air that they founded the

2589
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,940
game termike in its honor in which they

2590
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:13,920
throw metallic discs through the air to

2591
01:45:21,229 --> 01:45:19,129
we're gonna tell the story of the tour

2592
01:45:22,729 --> 01:45:21,239
McKay and the flag discs of the

2593
01:45:24,530 --> 01:45:22,739
turmerque valley

2594
01:45:26,209 --> 01:45:24,540
unless it's what's cool about this one

2595
01:45:28,729 --> 01:45:26,219
we're going to head home after that and

2596
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:28,739
then the next day we're going to play

2597
01:45:33,950 --> 01:45:31,440
teho and drink booze

2598
01:45:36,109 --> 01:45:33,960
oops

2599
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,119
Ron is is this like one of these Pub

2600
01:45:40,750 --> 01:45:38,400
Sports where people get better as they

2601
01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:40,760
drink more or is it totally the opposite

2602
01:45:47,570 --> 01:45:44,760
if you the way it works is so there is a

2603
01:45:49,729 --> 01:45:47,580
circle of paper and triangles and in

2604
01:45:50,930 --> 01:45:49,739
that paper is is fat or fireworks

2605
01:45:54,050 --> 01:45:50,940
gunpowder

2606
01:45:57,290 --> 01:45:54,060
so you throw your disc and if you back

2607
01:45:59,330 --> 01:45:57,300
if you hit and make a flame

2608
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:59,340
everybody buys your beer so if you're

2609
01:46:10,450 --> 01:46:00,480
playing with four people you've got

2610
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:13,330
wrong Vinnie

2611
01:46:21,550 --> 01:46:17,280
I'll take either man yeah this is

2612
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:25,609
over the DJ in front DJ disclosure it's

2613
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:27,840
so Club if you knew well you do know

2614
01:46:33,169 --> 01:46:30,480
Colombia is so I representative of the

2615
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:33,179
country where they're national sport and

2616
01:46:40,450 --> 01:46:35,760
Pastime is essentially throwing metallic

2617
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:44,149
me too oh yeah so there we go we're

2618
01:46:48,830 --> 01:46:45,600
gonna go play some teho and we're going

2619
01:46:52,250 --> 01:46:48,840
to talk to these look uh guys can you

2620
01:46:55,250 --> 01:46:52,260
see my can you see me or just my screen

2621
01:46:58,129 --> 01:46:55,260
well I can see the full screen but you

2622
01:46:59,570 --> 01:46:58,139
in the corner can the public see can I

2623
01:47:01,310 --> 01:46:59,580
go back to my

2624
01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:01,320
normal I just wanted to show you what's

2625
01:47:06,430 --> 01:47:03,060
happening with wika behind me the sun

2626
01:47:09,290 --> 01:47:06,440
setting and it's all right now yeah

2627
01:47:13,689 --> 01:47:09,300
yeah full screen me and let me turn my

2628
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:16,010
I just about hugged myself with my

2629
01:47:20,450 --> 01:47:18,320
headphones

2630
01:47:23,149 --> 01:47:20,460
don't tell me the lights are happening

2631
01:47:24,530 --> 01:47:23,159
no well who knows it's that time but I

2632
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:24,540
want you to see the sky it's biblical

2633
01:47:30,890 --> 01:47:28,639
yeah we can see the uh the blue Target

2634
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:30,900
is it the mountain above it I can see

2635
01:47:34,609 --> 01:47:32,159
wow there we go we've got the full

2636
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,619
mountain range there's waika if anyone

2637
01:47:40,010 --> 01:47:37,199
can see my mouth mouse cursor there's

2638
01:47:42,770 --> 01:47:40,020
the pain you can see

2639
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:42,780
oh no there is there are damn it I can't

2640
01:47:48,609 --> 01:47:45,840
zoom in because it's my crappy computer

2641
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:48,619
but that Peak where my mouse cursor is

2642
01:47:53,930 --> 01:47:52,080
is cursor because I don't think you

2643
01:47:57,530 --> 01:47:53,940
can't okay no

2644
01:48:01,310 --> 01:47:57,540
so the pain of the wika is the kind of

2645
01:48:03,649 --> 01:48:01,320
nipple shaped oh sorry right there the

2646
01:48:05,870 --> 01:48:03,659
The prominent nipple yeah that that's

2647
01:48:08,030 --> 01:48:05,880
lapena de waika that's the the mountain

2648
01:48:09,950 --> 01:48:08,040
where we see the lights

2649
01:48:11,689 --> 01:48:09,960
that's where we went up and kind of sat

2650
01:48:14,570 --> 01:48:11,699
on the front and where we walked up but

2651
01:48:16,729 --> 01:48:14,580
we're gonna walk up in again this hang

2652
01:48:19,129 --> 01:48:16,739
on this route here this angle is called

2653
01:48:22,189 --> 01:48:19,139
the rooted de los avnis the UFO Road

2654
01:48:24,050 --> 01:48:22,199
it's on Google Maps

2655
01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:24,060
so often I'm going to leave it right

2656
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:26,340
there with that sorry guys I didn't

2657
01:48:29,930 --> 01:48:27,600
realize that anybody couldn't see my

2658
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,940
cursor but yeah right that's right I

2659
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:31,760
love the passion thing

2660
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:34,010
that's all I'm about passion baby

2661
01:48:39,709 --> 01:48:37,679
[Laughter]

2662
01:48:41,810 --> 01:48:39,719
um so look we've been to El infernito

2663
01:48:45,229 --> 01:48:41,820
and we've been to the template sogamoso

2664
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,239
and we've been playing tenho a beer so

2665
01:48:49,729 --> 01:48:47,280
look I want to leave it with this can

2666
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:49,739
you see that

2667
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:53,040
yeah can the public see me or just my

2668
01:48:56,209 --> 01:48:54,480
screen Vinnie

2669
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,219
uh well at the moment you're like

2670
01:49:02,209 --> 01:48:58,560
prominent in the screen and me Dan and

2671
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:02,219
Elena are down the side in smaller

2672
01:49:08,209 --> 01:49:04,800
so can you put on my can you put on this

2673
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:11,570
hold on one second let me just do this

2674
01:49:18,129 --> 01:49:15,360
yep your slide is prominent

2675
01:49:21,050 --> 01:49:18,139
is it yep

2676
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:21,060
this here

2677
01:49:26,750 --> 01:49:24,960
has never been seen before I I don't

2678
01:49:28,729 --> 01:49:26,760
know about this and Dan doesn't know

2679
01:49:31,010 --> 01:49:28,739
about this this is nervous this is the

2680
01:49:33,050 --> 01:49:31,020
only this this is like looking at the

2681
01:49:34,490 --> 01:49:33,060
number on somebody's door

2682
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,500
and and that's what we're looking at

2683
01:49:38,030 --> 01:49:36,719
here is so this is a pictogram that's

2684
01:49:40,490 --> 01:49:38,040
never been seen before that we

2685
01:49:44,090 --> 01:49:40,500
discovered and this is the

2686
01:49:45,950 --> 01:49:44,100
entrance and the to something absolutely

2687
01:49:48,530 --> 01:49:45,960
spectacular that we're going to show in

2688
01:49:50,570 --> 01:49:48,540
episode seven of season two we're gonna

2689
01:49:52,370 --> 01:49:50,580
go and show you at this as I say it's

2690
01:49:55,310 --> 01:49:52,380
never been publicized before nobody

2691
01:49:58,070 --> 01:49:55,320
knows it's there it's an uh and it's in

2692
01:49:59,870 --> 01:49:58,080
an indigenous Reserve tucked away in a

2693
01:50:02,149 --> 01:49:59,880
corner of Columbia that seldom explored

2694
01:50:04,729 --> 01:50:02,159
and and we're gonna go for it we're

2695
01:50:06,590 --> 01:50:04,739
going to show you some exceptional and

2696
01:50:08,330 --> 01:50:06,600
mind-bending archeology

2697
01:50:15,050 --> 01:50:08,340
you know any ideas what kind of animal

2698
01:50:19,250 --> 01:50:16,790
real guessing

2699
01:50:20,270 --> 01:50:19,260
what do you think

2700
01:50:23,330 --> 01:50:20,280
um

2701
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,340
I kind of see long Jaws if I'm the right

2702
01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:25,280
way round like crocodile alligator

2703
01:50:30,590 --> 01:50:28,860
lizard something like that

2704
01:50:33,050 --> 01:50:30,600
it's got quite a big sort of barrel body

2705
01:50:34,250 --> 01:50:33,060
like a barrel body it's got this defined

2706
01:50:36,590 --> 01:50:34,260
tail here

2707
01:50:37,850 --> 01:50:36,600
it's got two legs on this side so is

2708
01:50:40,970 --> 01:50:37,860
there any chance there that that could

2709
01:50:42,830 --> 01:50:40,980
be a Tusk on the mouth

2710
01:50:44,570 --> 01:50:42,840
a mammoth

2711
01:50:48,649 --> 01:50:44,580
that it would have then it would have to

2712
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:48,659
be 12 000 years old for me right

2713
01:50:58,910 --> 01:50:57,410
some might think that I'm saying nothing

2714
01:51:00,010 --> 01:50:58,920
more about it I'm just showing you a

2715
01:51:02,450 --> 01:51:00,020
picture

2716
01:51:04,810 --> 01:51:02,460
but put a link up to Graham Hancock's

2717
01:51:07,609 --> 01:51:04,820
new series Vinnie just quick

2718
01:51:10,189 --> 01:51:07,619
but it's actually a Triceratops look

2719
01:51:12,890 --> 01:51:10,199
it's a dinosaur yeah well that makes

2720
01:51:14,810 --> 01:51:12,900
more sense than a mammoth definitely no

2721
01:51:16,850 --> 01:51:14,820
you don't get Triceratops like 600

2722
01:51:18,890 --> 01:51:16,860
million years old and remember two years

2723
01:51:21,410 --> 01:51:18,900
forget about the age I'm looking at the

2724
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:21,420
picture and I'm looking at my you don't

2725
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:28,669
I am lucky enough to have a daughter

2726
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,060
that's five years old that is into

2727
01:51:35,689 --> 01:51:32,480
dinosaurs I read about Choice

2728
01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:35,699
a week you can't give me an apple and

2729
01:51:39,709 --> 01:51:37,980
see it and it's an orange and then just

2730
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:39,719
say just ignore the color Ash it's it's

2731
01:51:44,450 --> 01:51:41,760
an apple well give me a chance okay give

2732
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,460
me a chance okay so if that represents

2733
01:51:49,810 --> 01:51:47,280
the Triceratops I know I was talking out

2734
01:51:52,010 --> 01:51:49,820
of Shakespeare that was allowed

2735
01:51:54,290 --> 01:51:52,020
that wasn't the fight that wasn't real

2736
01:51:55,570 --> 01:51:54,300
it's not a certainly not a Triceratops

2737
01:51:58,729 --> 01:51:55,580
behave yourself

2738
01:52:00,890 --> 01:51:58,739
a younger driest Triceratops

2739
01:52:02,810 --> 01:52:00,900
so we're looking at about 12 000 years

2740
01:52:04,729 --> 01:52:02,820
old whatever it is even if it is that

2741
01:52:06,530 --> 01:52:04,739
how many pictograms are dated to 12 000

2742
01:52:07,850 --> 01:52:06,540
BC what we're doing we're gonna get I'm

2743
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,860
going to be distracted here because all

2744
01:52:11,450 --> 01:52:09,840
it is is cheesy droppings Clues all I'm

2745
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:11,460
saying is we're off to this amazing

2746
01:52:15,890 --> 01:52:13,199
archaeological site that's what I mean

2747
01:52:18,590 --> 01:52:15,900
like we don't know you don't I love I

2748
01:52:20,209 --> 01:52:18,600
love that I love it so much that we have

2749
01:52:22,250 --> 01:52:20,219
something that is

2750
01:52:24,169 --> 01:52:22,260
when we get there we'll know

2751
01:52:26,689 --> 01:52:24,179
it's like when Walters just dropped the

2752
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:26,699
magic word here lighter and yes we are

2753
01:52:32,649 --> 01:52:29,840
going to scan these so we have 3D maps

2754
01:52:35,689 --> 01:52:32,659
these places

2755
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:35,699
I don't think we'll have lidar though

2756
01:52:39,590 --> 01:52:36,719
no

2757
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:39,600
Vinnie I've got lighter on my phone

2758
01:52:45,010 --> 01:52:42,960
no no how deep do you go though bro I've

2759
01:52:47,810 --> 01:52:45,020
got a ghost hunter yeah

2760
01:52:51,609 --> 01:52:47,820
I love it but they need to be able to

2761
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:51,619
teach it how deep do you go though bro

2762
01:52:57,410 --> 01:52:54,800
yeah the episodes

2763
01:52:59,810 --> 01:52:57,420
the episode's gonna be demonetized if

2764
01:53:02,149 --> 01:52:59,820
you continue like this dude this was

2765
01:53:05,950 --> 01:53:02,159
meant to be the Christmas episode where

2766
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:05,960
anything goes I don't care I don't care

2767
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:08,520
in the chat let's go

2768
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:11,760
see if anything can go can I go to the

2769
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:12,960
toilet

2770
01:53:17,930 --> 01:53:16,560
yes but you have to leave the stream you

2771
01:53:24,189 --> 01:53:17,940
can't just go where you're setting Maps

2772
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:28,990
Leslie Nielsen Zetta strong yes

2773
01:53:39,169 --> 01:53:31,440
in the toilet I'd want to speak to Elena

2774
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:41,090
um but you know we'll see what the

2775
01:53:45,229 --> 01:53:42,719
weather's like right

2776
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:45,239
um I have to say I think lake guadavita

2777
01:53:50,030 --> 01:53:47,040
is going to be incredible

2778
01:53:52,370 --> 01:53:50,040
um the the ritual that's performed there

2779
01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:52,380
at that time of year it's so similar to

2780
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:54,239
other rituals that have performed um

2781
01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:56,880
like baptismal rights um at holy sites

2782
01:54:02,209 --> 01:53:59,520
that similar times of year and

2783
01:54:05,209 --> 01:54:02,219
um where there's water flow

2784
01:54:07,490 --> 01:54:05,219
um all of a sudden and um I love these

2785
01:54:09,890 --> 01:54:07,500
resonant valleys uh where there's like

2786
01:54:12,890 --> 01:54:09,900
this type of geological battery going on

2787
01:54:14,330 --> 01:54:12,900
so there's so many connections um as you

2788
01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:14,340
were saying I had like

2789
01:54:18,590 --> 01:54:16,320
10 books I'm reading

2790
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:18,600
um about the interconnectedness of the

2791
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:19,920
subject they're just you know the

2792
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:22,800
physics Consciousness energy aspects and

2793
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:25,440
then not to mention you know the um

2794
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:28,560
potential OB and UAP

2795
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:31,440
um having extensions so you know it's

2796
01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:34,980
it's a lot of research to do

2797
01:54:38,810 --> 01:54:37,440
and I'm glad absolutely no this is the

2798
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:38,820
great thing we're so happy that you're

2799
01:54:43,729 --> 01:54:41,280
part of the team and it's gonna resonate

2800
01:54:45,290 --> 01:54:43,739
with the audience when you know you're

2801
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:45,300
filmed and talking about everything

2802
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:47,760
we're experiencing but it's the private

2803
01:54:51,050 --> 01:54:49,440
conversations as well that happen off

2804
01:54:55,010 --> 01:54:51,060
camera that I think are just going to be

2805
01:54:57,530 --> 01:54:55,020
so Monumental as much as what we see uh

2806
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:57,540
Ashley with the cameras in your face you

2807
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:00,480
know it's it's a beautiful thing and

2808
01:55:06,770 --> 01:55:02,880
oh and this is where I'll give credit to

2809
01:55:10,430 --> 01:55:06,780
Ashley oh he will throw a camera in your

2810
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,440
face but still allow you to act natural

2811
01:55:15,050 --> 01:55:12,480
uh it's a beautiful thing it really

2812
01:55:18,890 --> 01:55:15,060
really is and I cannot stress that

2813
01:55:20,209 --> 01:55:18,900
enough like for two weeks that was the

2814
01:55:22,910 --> 01:55:20,219
thing like

2815
01:55:26,930 --> 01:55:22,920
he he just has a way of doing it and it

2816
01:55:28,850 --> 01:55:26,940
works and yeah kudos to you Ash just ask

2817
01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:28,860
you to tell the truth and you feel safe

2818
01:55:34,129 --> 01:55:30,600
doing that with me yeah yeah yeah yeah

2819
01:55:35,629 --> 01:55:34,139
oh man like like never before man like

2820
01:55:38,270 --> 01:55:35,639
never before but nothing I've

2821
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,280
experienced and since and you know we've

2822
01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:40,159
been in Bigger Productions since with

2823
01:55:46,430 --> 01:55:43,920
DVD DVC film production companies early

2824
01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:46,440
you know really this year like yeah well

2825
01:55:51,649 --> 01:55:48,900
we were there with the Scotland and

2826
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:51,659
stuff indeed indeed no that's good to

2827
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:53,040
hear I'm delighted that you think that

2828
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,480
that's how it's got to be there's

2829
01:55:57,950 --> 01:55:56,400
nothing worse than you can have the most

2830
01:55:59,390 --> 01:55:57,960
confident people in the world but as

2831
01:56:02,090 --> 01:55:59,400
soon as the camera is on them there's

2832
01:56:04,010 --> 01:56:02,100
freeze they change yeah they have to

2833
01:56:05,810 --> 01:56:04,020
sort of guard what they can say and you

2834
01:56:07,129 --> 01:56:05,820
always feel that there's there's lots of

2835
01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:07,139
people that are quite

2836
01:56:11,450 --> 01:56:09,119
there are Pace behind what that means is

2837
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:11,460
their minds thinking about what they

2838
01:56:14,750 --> 01:56:12,840
should really say because it's the truth

2839
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:14,760
and then there's this secondary filter

2840
01:56:19,370 --> 01:56:16,800
and then they say what they think people

2841
01:56:21,890 --> 01:56:19,380
want to hear you you look for a pleasure

2842
01:56:24,890 --> 01:56:21,900
in the sense that well well chosen I

2843
01:56:27,530 --> 01:56:24,900
should say too not because you are all

2844
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,540
communicate confidently and straight and

2845
01:56:32,510 --> 01:56:29,520
you're not intimidated by a camera and

2846
01:56:35,390 --> 01:56:32,520
the outcome is there's no nobody's made

2847
01:56:37,010 --> 01:56:35,400
to be a fool nobody's made out I don't

2848
01:56:39,890 --> 01:56:37,020
do anything dramatic I don't make people

2849
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:39,900
I don't make up false conflict that you

2850
01:56:44,209 --> 01:56:42,480
can do I can make you all look as if you

2851
01:56:46,970 --> 01:56:44,219
hate each other but just taking pieces

2852
01:56:48,770 --> 01:56:46,980
of what you're saying you I think you

2853
01:56:49,729 --> 01:56:48,780
saw yourself you're all represented

2854
01:56:51,950 --> 01:56:49,739
quite

2855
01:56:53,330 --> 01:56:51,960
as you are and there was no funny

2856
01:56:55,729 --> 01:56:53,340
business

2857
01:56:57,770 --> 01:56:55,739
yeah yeah you actually did really well

2858
01:56:59,390 --> 01:56:57,780
with that and and I remember some

2859
01:57:02,570 --> 01:56:59,400
moments thinking like oh God did I say

2860
01:57:04,850 --> 01:57:02,580
that Ashley is gonna he couldn't make me

2861
01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:04,860
look horrific but you chose really good

2862
01:57:08,930 --> 01:57:07,199
parts and and you you understood my

2863
01:57:09,709 --> 01:57:08,940
argument at times I think better than I

2864
01:57:11,390 --> 01:57:09,719
did

2865
01:57:13,370 --> 01:57:11,400
sometimes I have to I have to be

2866
01:57:14,990 --> 01:57:13,380
straight for like don't don't just

2867
01:57:16,669 --> 01:57:15,000
because you didn't look horrific don't

2868
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:16,679
for a second think that sometimes you

2869
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:18,360
work it weren't horrific because you

2870
01:57:23,950 --> 01:57:19,280
were

2871
01:57:26,209 --> 01:57:23,960
I just I just edited that oh simple

2872
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,219
uh I just want to bring this comment up

2873
01:57:31,850 --> 01:57:28,560
so vorac in the comments says any new

2874
01:57:33,770 --> 01:57:31,860
guests in season two well you know yeah

2875
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:33,780
we've just we've just introduced a new

2876
01:57:37,490 --> 01:57:35,520
team member Elena but she's certainly

2877
01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:37,500
not a guest she is an integral part of

2878
01:57:42,589 --> 01:57:40,320
the team I'm wondering well one thing

2879
01:57:45,709 --> 01:57:42,599
that I have been doing which I guess the

2880
01:57:47,450 --> 01:57:45,719
team doesn't necessarily know is that I

2881
01:57:49,550 --> 01:57:47,460
have been having conversations with

2882
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:49,560
people behind the scenes as far as

2883
01:57:55,790 --> 01:57:54,000
advice for work in South America and who

2884
01:57:57,229 --> 01:57:55,800
has recently put out a documentary from

2885
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:57,239
South America

2886
01:58:03,709 --> 01:58:00,080
James Fox Brazil yeah so that's right

2887
01:58:06,109 --> 01:58:03,719
James has uh gladly provided me with a

2888
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:06,119
video Christmas video uh which I put out

2889
01:58:10,550 --> 01:58:08,159
on my social so I'm in a little bit back

2890
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:10,560
and forth with James so maybe he can

2891
01:58:17,149 --> 01:58:12,960
help us in our investigations in

2892
01:58:20,450 --> 01:58:17,159
Colombia and so last time we had advice

2893
01:58:22,910 --> 01:58:20,460
from Sean Cahill and Lou Elizondo which

2894
01:58:24,830 --> 01:58:22,920
you know would be great again Lou and

2895
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:24,840
Sean are always welcome always welcome

2896
01:58:29,810 --> 01:58:27,119
to give us advice on what we're doing

2897
01:58:31,550 --> 01:58:29,820
but maybe this time James might be a

2898
01:58:34,430 --> 01:58:31,560
little bit of a

2899
01:58:36,050 --> 01:58:34,440
involved in some way or other but yeah

2900
01:58:38,689 --> 01:58:36,060
you know I know you guys want to see big

2901
01:58:40,850 --> 01:58:38,699
names in that but hang on a minute you

2902
01:58:45,310 --> 01:58:40,860
just got 20 quid from red panda colored

2903
01:58:49,070 --> 01:58:48,290
right what's going on here I didn't know

2904
01:58:52,669 --> 01:58:49,080
this

2905
01:58:55,550 --> 01:58:52,679
dude red panda koala who I'm a huge fan

2906
01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:55,560
of almost like a fanboy I'm a fanboy if

2907
01:59:03,850 --> 01:58:57,360
red panda of course you are they give

2908
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:06,830
since like the early days of his work

2909
01:59:11,570 --> 01:59:09,360
and even when he did the work recently

2910
01:59:15,649 --> 01:59:11,580
as well with um

2911
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,659
Jesse Michaels which was huge and red is

2912
01:59:19,310 --> 01:59:17,280
like red is the kind of person that you

2913
01:59:22,129 --> 01:59:19,320
want to be like when you speak because

2914
01:59:24,169 --> 01:59:22,139
he's so cool calm and collected when he

2915
01:59:27,050 --> 01:59:24,179
describes the phenomena he's just like

2916
01:59:30,189 --> 01:59:27,060
natural for the camera but he says here

2917
01:59:33,530 --> 01:59:30,199
I highly recommend his um his videos on

2918
01:59:35,450 --> 01:59:33,540
the whole Tom Delong thing and the core

2919
01:59:36,830 --> 01:59:35,460
kind of narrative there he puts it

2920
01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:36,840
together really really well there's two

2921
01:59:41,450 --> 01:59:39,360
episodes that are just so concise and so

2922
01:59:44,270 --> 01:59:41,460
so and he's great he's done this before

2923
01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:44,280
and it blows me it blows me away so red

2924
01:59:48,109 --> 01:59:46,080
I'm gonna read it out red says great job

2925
01:59:51,169 --> 01:59:48,119
on the episode guys the editing was

2926
01:59:52,850 --> 01:59:51,179
super super professional and sharp do I

2927
01:59:55,250 --> 01:59:52,860
mean to read it and in a beautiful

2928
01:59:56,689 --> 01:59:55,260
location with interesting phenomenal

2929
01:59:58,910 --> 01:59:56,699
history looking forward to the next one

2930
02:00:01,850 --> 01:59:58,920
happy holidays dude I appreciate that

2931
02:00:04,370 --> 02:00:01,860
like damn man

2932
02:00:06,290 --> 02:00:04,380
honestly that that shows that gives us

2933
02:00:08,270 --> 02:00:06,300
credibility because

2934
02:00:09,470 --> 02:00:08,280
um I'm not saying anybody else in the

2935
02:00:11,209 --> 02:00:09,480
chat that's seen this doesn't have

2936
02:00:13,850 --> 02:00:11,219
credibility but when you get that kind

2937
02:00:15,950 --> 02:00:13,860
of Nod just that little nod gives you

2938
02:00:17,930 --> 02:00:15,960
that little bit of the nice the nice

2939
02:00:20,510 --> 02:00:17,940
thing there is the fellow has

2940
02:00:22,669 --> 02:00:20,520
taken his time to choose words and write

2941
02:00:25,250 --> 02:00:22,679
exactly what he likes about it it's not

2942
02:00:27,890 --> 02:00:25,260
just a generic yeah I loved it yeah it

2943
02:00:29,330 --> 02:00:27,900
was great no the guy's seen all of the

2944
02:00:31,189 --> 02:00:29,340
things he thought was done well so

2945
02:00:34,250 --> 02:00:31,199
that's good on them good old red panda

2946
02:00:36,770 --> 02:00:34,260
hey Ash whatever you need maybe maybe a

2947
02:00:39,050 --> 02:00:36,780
little uh post editing assistance with

2948
02:00:40,669 --> 02:00:39,060
red panda koala I would love it if

2949
02:00:43,729 --> 02:00:40,679
anybody could help me at all with

2950
02:00:45,709 --> 02:00:43,739
editing it just so let's maybe ask red

2951
02:00:47,089 --> 02:00:45,719
panda what he can bring to the to the

2952
02:00:50,530 --> 02:00:47,099
gig

2953
02:00:52,609 --> 02:00:50,540
there you go thank you so much

2954
02:00:55,070 --> 02:00:52,619
uh we love you man there's another

2955
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:55,080
comment from him there no don't say that

2956
02:00:59,689 --> 02:00:56,000
stop

2957
02:01:02,390 --> 02:00:59,699
no right so yesterday I was I was been a

2958
02:01:05,209 --> 02:01:02,400
dick yesterday because

2959
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:05,219
somebody on Twitter Lex fredman posted I

2960
02:01:09,410 --> 02:01:07,679
love all you guys and I just did it and

2961
02:01:10,850 --> 02:01:09,420
I'm going to tell you now to stop saying

2962
02:01:13,370 --> 02:01:10,860
I love you guys because you sound like a

2963
02:01:15,470 --> 02:01:13,380
Hollywood actor taking an Emmy and

2964
02:01:18,589 --> 02:01:15,480
saying the most you don't love us what

2965
02:01:20,570 --> 02:01:18,599
you really like you really like us yeah

2966
02:01:22,510 --> 02:01:20,580
but that's that's like saying brother on

2967
02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:22,520
on

2968
02:01:29,089 --> 02:01:26,159
I I I absolutely why I say that you know

2969
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:29,099
why I say that right there they asked

2970
02:01:32,689 --> 02:01:30,480
for me this before

2971
02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:32,699
I never call people brother apart from

2972
02:01:36,410 --> 02:01:34,560
my brother in real life but when I'm on

2973
02:01:38,770 --> 02:01:36,420
podcasts I keep calling everybody right

2974
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:38,780
brother all the time why

2975
02:01:44,030 --> 02:01:42,719
is it nervous is that a nervous thing

2976
02:01:46,970 --> 02:01:44,040
maybe where I hear all the American

2977
02:01:49,070 --> 02:01:46,980
confident one folk calling each other

2978
02:01:50,570 --> 02:01:49,080
brother all the time so I I think it

2979
02:01:54,589 --> 02:01:50,580
kind of happens then when you're in this

2980
02:01:57,729 --> 02:01:54,599
setting perhaps dude yeah form a bond in

2981
02:02:08,470 --> 02:01:57,739
Colombia though oh indeed brother

2982
02:02:13,609 --> 02:02:11,629
it was only for women and we said to

2983
02:02:15,649 --> 02:02:13,619
what was what was the question when we

2984
02:02:18,050 --> 02:02:15,659
asked if Walter could go into it what

2985
02:02:19,850 --> 02:02:18,060
was the answer we got Ash Lydia shouted

2986
02:02:21,649 --> 02:02:19,860
over and says you're not allowed in here

2987
02:02:24,470 --> 02:02:21,659
it's for women only it's the Temple of

2988
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:24,480
the Moon and I said I I just thought in

2989
02:02:28,609 --> 02:02:26,639
the polite way it's a sacred areas so

2990
02:02:31,010 --> 02:02:28,619
you can't use swear words but there are

2991
02:02:33,229 --> 02:02:31,020
almost swear words which you can use it

2992
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:33,239
and I said is it okay if Walter gets

2993
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:35,040
access to the females table because he's

2994
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:37,520
got a mangina

2995
02:02:41,810 --> 02:02:40,320
and it just went silent you know but we

2996
02:02:44,450 --> 02:02:41,820
dropped it into we dropped it into

2997
02:02:46,790 --> 02:02:44,460
episode three because it's so funny yeah

2998
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:46,800
I'll tell you now if Elena is sister now

2999
02:02:51,290 --> 02:02:48,719
she's gonna be high priestess by the

3000
02:02:52,609 --> 02:02:51,300
time we finish the high priestess that's

3001
02:02:56,750 --> 02:02:52,619
why you invited me someone's got to go

3002
02:03:02,229 --> 02:02:56,760
in the moon Temple I see there we go see

3003
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:04,669
she's already One Stop ahead one step

3004
02:03:09,470 --> 02:03:06,960
ahead of us so like oh now this is what

3005
02:03:12,050 --> 02:03:09,480
excites me so much like ash What will

3006
02:03:15,050 --> 02:03:12,060
what we need to decide now with this

3007
02:03:16,729 --> 02:03:15,060
specific interview is do we need or do

3008
02:03:18,169 --> 02:03:16,739
the people or the viewers or the

3009
02:03:20,570 --> 02:03:18,179
listeners need to know anything else

3010
02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:20,580
yeah before we before we finish because

3011
02:03:25,550 --> 02:03:23,040
I could have this conversation with you

3012
02:03:28,689 --> 02:03:25,560
Dan and Elena for the next two or three

3013
02:03:30,950 --> 02:03:28,699
hours but yeah

3014
02:03:32,209 --> 02:03:30,960
one thing I will shout out is that we

3015
02:03:35,089 --> 02:03:32,219
are going to move this to Instagram

3016
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,099
afterwards to do a special Christmas

3017
02:03:39,950 --> 02:03:38,159
Instagram live right so you just just

3018
02:03:41,149 --> 02:03:39,960
thought my general opinion on a few

3019
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:41,159
things that people might want to think

3020
02:03:46,189 --> 02:03:43,920
about or just in general yeah yeah all

3021
02:03:48,250 --> 02:03:46,199
right so so Vinnie's General present in

3022
02:03:52,330 --> 02:03:48,260
style is

3023
02:03:57,550 --> 02:03:54,950
yeah it's as simple as this

3024
02:04:01,550 --> 02:03:57,560
if both want to come to Colombia between

3025
02:04:04,669 --> 02:04:01,560
April 6th and April 16th 2023 next year

3026
02:04:07,310 --> 02:04:04,679
to join us for and Walter and the two

3027
02:04:09,410 --> 02:04:07,320
natalias and another two folk we're

3028
02:04:12,530 --> 02:04:09,420
going to be eight or nine strong go to

3029
02:04:15,770 --> 02:04:12,540
UAP Columbia forward slash PS2

3030
02:04:18,169 --> 02:04:15,780
Playstation 2 PS2 which is phenomenology

3031
02:04:19,970 --> 02:04:18,179
season two you're just gonna fill in

3032
02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:19,980
your name your email address tell us why

3033
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:21,599
what you think you can bring to the

3034
02:04:24,890 --> 02:04:23,760
project and I'm going to get back to you

3035
02:04:26,870 --> 02:04:24,900
I'm going to drop you an email and we're

3036
02:04:29,030 --> 02:04:26,880
going to have a chat and we'll be

3037
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:29,040
putting your name into our list in in

3038
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:30,719
January we will be pulling out the last

3039
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,159
two or three people that we want to come

3040
02:04:36,050 --> 02:04:34,560
along and film with us and that's the

3041
02:04:37,609 --> 02:04:36,060
way it's going to work so let me tell

3042
02:04:39,830 --> 02:04:37,619
you the course let's not hide anything

3043
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:39,840
here oh let me show you this guys can I

3044
02:04:43,490 --> 02:04:41,280
share my full screen again by me of

3045
02:04:46,490 --> 02:04:43,500
course you can man nice look at this you

3046
02:04:47,870 --> 02:04:46,500
ready yep so I better do my full screen

3047
02:04:50,510 --> 02:04:47,880
One tech

3048
02:04:54,770 --> 02:04:50,520
and what was that I did again I oh sorry

3049
02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:54,780
Elena sorry wait wait wait hold up hold

3050
02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:55,520
up

3051
02:05:01,510 --> 02:04:57,599
there you go

3052
02:05:07,010 --> 02:05:05,209
uh command command F or slideshow

3053
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:07,020
command f

3054
02:05:11,149 --> 02:05:09,360
no I know that I'll just put the effort

3055
02:05:13,609 --> 02:05:11,159
though sorry the app full screen my bad

3056
02:05:16,370 --> 02:05:13,619
uh yeah you got it right here we go so

3057
02:05:18,290 --> 02:05:16,380
so once we get to the we've played our

3058
02:05:20,689 --> 02:05:18,300
teho beer and their archaeological site

3059
02:05:22,070 --> 02:05:20,699
there we go if people can ask I thought

3060
02:05:23,570 --> 02:05:22,080
we should leave this at least for a few

3061
02:05:26,270 --> 02:05:23,580
minutes on the screen Vinny because it

3062
02:05:27,770 --> 02:05:26,280
shows exactly what folk are gonna get

3063
02:05:30,109 --> 02:05:27,780
when they come I'll run through it

3064
02:05:31,790 --> 02:05:30,119
quickly first and foremost they're gonna

3065
02:05:34,070 --> 02:05:31,800
feature in season two of our

3066
02:05:35,810 --> 02:05:34,080
phenomenology documentary series

3067
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:35,820
they're going to be collected by a

3068
02:05:39,709 --> 02:05:37,679
private driver from Bogota El Dorado

3069
02:05:42,350 --> 02:05:39,719
airport they're going to be driven two

3070
02:05:43,910 --> 02:05:42,360
hours into the hills to HQ and we're

3071
02:05:46,729 --> 02:05:43,920
going to welcome them in front of a Coal

3072
02:05:49,250 --> 02:05:46,739
Fire as you know happens oh yeah they're

3073
02:05:51,050 --> 02:05:49,260
gonna stay for nine nights accommodation

3074
02:05:53,750 --> 02:05:51,060
right so nine nights accommodation

3075
02:05:55,370 --> 02:05:53,760
that's three nights HQ five nights on

3076
02:05:57,530 --> 02:05:55,380
the road around Colombia and then three

3077
02:05:59,930 --> 02:05:57,540
more nights at HQ

3078
02:06:02,089 --> 02:05:59,940
um your all of the meals are included

3079
02:06:03,830 --> 02:06:02,099
it's all traditional Colombian food

3080
02:06:05,450 --> 02:06:03,840
we're not eating much pizza we're not

3081
02:06:07,209 --> 02:06:05,460
eating many pizzas certainly one for

3082
02:06:11,330 --> 02:06:07,219
Vinnie every time

3083
02:06:13,370 --> 02:06:11,340
all all of the the entries to the

3084
02:06:15,669 --> 02:06:13,380
museums the transport when we're

3085
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,679
traveling around Colombia the

3086
02:06:19,310 --> 02:06:17,760
interviewing with indigenous communities

3087
02:06:21,050 --> 02:06:19,320
and the payments we make to them it's

3088
02:06:24,050 --> 02:06:21,060
all included in clearing including

3089
02:06:25,609 --> 02:06:24,060
security guards and these guides Julio

3090
02:06:26,629 --> 02:06:25,619
and his brothers Julio and His Four

3091
02:06:27,950 --> 02:06:26,639
Brothers

3092
02:06:30,169 --> 02:06:27,960
and then we're going to get you back to

3093
02:06:32,990 --> 02:06:30,179
the airport for your Homeward flight

3094
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,000
whole thing two and a half two five two

3095
02:06:37,250 --> 02:06:35,280
five to five thousand two thousand five

3096
02:06:40,250 --> 02:06:37,260
hundred dollars

3097
02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:40,260
that's it all included to get you here

3098
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:41,940
and that's everything for the week so as

3099
02:06:45,229 --> 02:06:43,440
you said at the start you're five or six

3100
02:06:47,570 --> 02:06:45,239
thousand dollars for a week in Colombia

3101
02:06:49,070 --> 02:06:47,580
we're doing this whole sort of 10-day

3102
02:06:50,089 --> 02:06:49,080
trip here for two and a half thousand

3103
02:06:52,729 --> 02:06:50,099
dollars

3104
02:06:54,290 --> 02:06:52,739
so that's us where our cards are on the

3105
02:06:56,570 --> 02:06:54,300
table we're looking for two more people

3106
02:06:58,970 --> 02:06:56,580
and um I just can't wait to see who

3107
02:07:00,890 --> 02:06:58,980
applies as a result of this if anybody's

3108
02:07:02,930 --> 02:07:00,900
stayed this long they're they're

3109
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,940
certainly Keen right

3110
02:07:07,729 --> 02:07:04,800
they're not only Keen but they're ready

3111
02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:07,739
to experience uh um a life-changing

3112
02:07:11,209 --> 02:07:09,840
experience yeah

3113
02:07:13,609 --> 02:07:11,219
um

3114
02:07:15,709 --> 02:07:13,619
yeah I mean I'm just trying to I'm still

3115
02:07:18,649 --> 02:07:15,719
I still try and visualize the fact that

3116
02:07:21,470 --> 02:07:18,659
from the moment I uh left

3117
02:07:24,109 --> 02:07:21,480
Northern England in Sheffield on a coach

3118
02:07:26,209 --> 02:07:24,119
to go down to Birmingham to meet Dan to

3119
02:07:28,910 --> 02:07:26,219
stay in a hotel to fly out to you know

3120
02:07:31,790 --> 02:07:28,920
the whole Adventure from start to finish

3121
02:07:34,370 --> 02:07:31,800
was like something that you would expect

3122
02:07:36,649 --> 02:07:34,380
to see in this day and age

3123
02:07:39,410 --> 02:07:36,659
on a YouTube channel for the biggest

3124
02:07:42,350 --> 02:07:39,420
vloggers and I say that from an aspect

3125
02:07:45,890 --> 02:07:42,360
of modern

3126
02:07:48,010 --> 02:07:45,900
um entertainment let's say it's not like

3127
02:07:52,070 --> 02:07:48,020
um

3128
02:07:53,510 --> 02:07:52,080
so I've always been bigger on uh YouTube

3129
02:07:54,770 --> 02:07:53,520
and stuff like that not not me

3130
02:07:56,450 --> 02:07:54,780
personally but I've always been big on

3131
02:08:00,169 --> 02:07:56,460
watching YouTube and

3132
02:08:03,589 --> 02:08:00,179
watching the the period of getting from

3133
02:08:05,810 --> 02:08:03,599
A to B is almost as important from B to

3134
02:08:08,930 --> 02:08:05,820
C the big project you know what I mean

3135
02:08:11,089 --> 02:08:08,940
uh so that whole aspect of what me and

3136
02:08:13,070 --> 02:08:11,099
Dan did was like

3137
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:13,080
well it was the biggest inventor of my

3138
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:14,880
life yeah you know

3139
02:08:20,810 --> 02:08:17,520
and we had had a serious laugh along the

3140
02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:20,820
way oh yeah like you know who gets to

3141
02:08:24,169 --> 02:08:22,560
travel Halfway Around the World to a

3142
02:08:28,370 --> 02:08:24,179
country they never thought they would

3143
02:08:29,990 --> 02:08:28,380
ever visit to then then not just reside

3144
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:30,000
in that country but then go on and do

3145
02:08:34,370 --> 02:08:31,440
bigger and better things within that

3146
02:08:35,870 --> 02:08:34,380
country I mean it Beggars belief that I

3147
02:08:39,430 --> 02:08:35,880
could go on about it for hours and we've

3148
02:08:43,550 --> 02:08:39,440
already been two plus hours here but

3149
02:08:44,990 --> 02:08:43,560
yeah it's serious I mean Dan let's give

3150
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:45,000
your perspective because I know you'll

3151
02:08:48,589 --> 02:08:47,280
be better at describing what I'm trying

3152
02:08:52,010 --> 02:08:48,599
to say

3153
02:08:53,629 --> 02:08:52,020
it was just there was a lot of fun kind

3154
02:08:56,930 --> 02:08:53,639
of because I remember coming up to

3155
02:08:58,370 --> 02:08:56,940
Birmingham I met you and you kind of had

3156
02:08:59,870 --> 02:08:58,380
a little gathering of some some people

3157
02:09:01,370 --> 02:08:59,880
to watch your channel

3158
02:09:03,169 --> 02:09:01,380
um and that was the first place I met

3159
02:09:04,729 --> 02:09:03,179
Max McCabe and a few other people who've

3160
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:04,739
since become friends

3161
02:09:08,990 --> 02:09:07,199
then then yeah we flew to Colombia and

3162
02:09:10,490 --> 02:09:09,000
that was a lot of fun

3163
02:09:12,589 --> 02:09:10,500
um you know haggling with the air host

3164
02:09:14,149 --> 02:09:12,599
test is to get kind of be able to

3165
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,159
stretch our legs out on the seats and

3166
02:09:17,390 --> 02:09:15,840
sleep along the way and stuff like that

3167
02:09:18,770 --> 02:09:17,400
I remember ending up in the back kind of

3168
02:09:20,330 --> 02:09:18,780
fixing some math books and things like

3169
02:09:22,729 --> 02:09:20,340
that for them

3170
02:09:23,570 --> 02:09:22,739
um and then yeah we arrived there we

3171
02:09:26,089 --> 02:09:23,580
were collected from the airport

3172
02:09:28,729 --> 02:09:26,099
everything was super easy and it was

3173
02:09:32,089 --> 02:09:28,739
just it was amazing feeling safe because

3174
02:09:34,129 --> 02:09:32,099
you've got Ashley you've got uh

3175
02:09:36,589 --> 02:09:34,139
both matis who were referred to

3176
02:09:39,169 --> 02:09:36,599
collectively as the Illuminati and they

3177
02:09:42,890 --> 02:09:39,179
they just looked after everything for us

3178
02:09:46,010 --> 02:09:42,900
and we can really just relax you know

3179
02:09:48,109 --> 02:09:46,020
um and just experience it properly and

3180
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:48,119
then as we went and kind of about our

3181
02:09:54,890 --> 02:09:52,800
days it was just it was so enjoyable and

3182
02:09:57,950 --> 02:09:54,900
it just included experiences that money

3183
02:10:00,290 --> 02:09:57,960
can't buy really I would say uh the the

3184
02:10:02,810 --> 02:10:00,300
connections that Ash had the the package

3185
02:10:04,669 --> 02:10:02,820
they put together was just

3186
02:10:07,729 --> 02:10:04,679
I was going to say once in a lifetime

3187
02:10:10,250 --> 02:10:07,739
but twice in a lifetime I guess now yeah

3188
02:10:11,870 --> 02:10:10,260
but it really was outstanding

3189
02:10:13,790 --> 02:10:11,880
I'd agree with the connections of

3190
02:10:15,109 --> 02:10:13,800
azure's got here the Julio and his

3191
02:10:16,970 --> 02:10:15,119
brothers and all the drivers and

3192
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:16,980
everybody we were safe where you know

3193
02:10:20,990 --> 02:10:19,199
let's be really adult about this

3194
02:10:22,970 --> 02:10:21,000
Colombia isn't one of the safest

3195
02:10:24,770 --> 02:10:22,980
countries in the world is it

3196
02:10:26,450 --> 02:10:24,780
but when you look at that reality

3197
02:10:28,189 --> 02:10:26,460
straight on and take all the precautions

3198
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,199
you know we managed to course through

3199
02:10:32,570 --> 02:10:30,480
and we didn't meet any of the nasties

3200
02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:32,580
that are struggling country can

3201
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:35,040
sometimes have so that's the quality of

3202
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:37,679
our context is the safety that you

3203
02:10:42,350 --> 02:10:39,840
experience when you're here that's a

3204
02:10:44,750 --> 02:10:42,360
fact absolutely man

3205
02:10:48,189 --> 02:10:44,760
hey guys can I tell you no before your

3206
02:10:53,629 --> 02:10:50,870
now Ashley's interrupting

3207
02:10:56,030 --> 02:10:53,639
I love it I love broke you know what I

3208
02:10:58,129 --> 02:10:56,040
love this so much man this is what this

3209
02:10:59,629 --> 02:10:58,139
is what I wanted from this uh discussion

3210
02:11:01,790 --> 02:10:59,639
like the fact that we're showing that

3211
02:11:04,129 --> 02:11:01,800
we're all friends and

3212
02:11:05,810 --> 02:11:04,139
you know as much as we do the serious

3213
02:11:08,270 --> 02:11:05,820
work we can have a laugh as well man

3214
02:11:09,530 --> 02:11:08,280
Ashley has given me something in my

3215
02:11:11,870 --> 02:11:09,540
lifetime that I never thought would

3216
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:11,880
happen and so I love him to bits he's a

3217
02:11:19,390 --> 02:11:14,159
brother man so Ashley go for it you've

3218
02:11:23,890 --> 02:11:21,649
forgot what I was gonna say because you

3219
02:11:26,510 --> 02:11:23,900
spoke again

3220
02:11:28,070 --> 02:11:26,520
I was going to see what's nice and doing

3221
02:11:30,109 --> 02:11:28,080
what we're doing is we're it's there's

3222
02:11:32,330 --> 02:11:30,119
lots of Landscapes and scenery and stuff

3223
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:32,340
in the film and it's so nice to be

3224
02:11:39,290 --> 02:11:36,000
making uh film or films in Colombia that

3225
02:11:42,229 --> 02:11:39,300
have nothing to do with Pablo Escobar

3226
02:11:43,790 --> 02:11:42,239
you know what I mean it's like coming to

3227
02:11:45,589 --> 02:11:43,800
Scotland and making a film that's got

3228
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:45,599
nothing to do with Robert the Bruce

3229
02:11:50,149 --> 02:11:47,520
we're going to Jeremy and do nothing to

3230
02:11:52,850 --> 02:11:50,159
do with Hitler he's this archetypal

3231
02:11:55,189 --> 02:11:52,860
figure in the the thing and it's so nice

3232
02:11:56,570 --> 02:11:55,199
to dissolve that side of the history of

3233
02:11:59,570 --> 02:11:56,580
Colombian to be putting out something

3234
02:12:01,729 --> 02:11:59,580
about Colombia that's positive and and

3235
02:12:03,709 --> 02:12:01,739
new rather than looking back to the dark

3236
02:12:05,870 --> 02:12:03,719
of this which is so archetypal of

3237
02:12:07,550 --> 02:12:05,880
filmmakers here yeah absolutely

3238
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,560
absolutely that is the thing we are

3239
02:12:10,850 --> 02:12:09,360
doing that but with that gets recognized

3240
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:10,860
here

3241
02:12:16,010 --> 02:12:13,199
you're even yeah absolutely looking into

3242
02:12:18,050 --> 02:12:16,020
the history of the culture before

3243
02:12:20,270 --> 02:12:18,060
um that happened so you're bringing

3244
02:12:22,189 --> 02:12:20,280
history to New Life which is even more

3245
02:12:24,050 --> 02:12:22,199
beautiful I'm really glad to be a part

3246
02:12:26,089 --> 02:12:24,060
of that yeah nice well I'm sure you're

3247
02:12:28,129 --> 02:12:26,099
gonna love it I really have no doubts at

3248
02:12:29,330 --> 02:12:28,139
all and once January comes we'll be

3249
02:12:30,770 --> 02:12:29,340
having this but there'll be another

3250
02:12:32,570 --> 02:12:30,780
three or four people will be on the

3251
02:12:34,370 --> 02:12:32,580
meeting that will be in the teams

3252
02:12:36,109 --> 02:12:34,380
so it's quite funny because we're like

3253
02:12:37,850 --> 02:12:36,119
the folks that were at the kit in the

3254
02:12:39,410 --> 02:12:37,860
kitchen at the party first and before

3255
02:12:41,330 --> 02:12:39,420
everybody got back from the club right

3256
02:12:43,010 --> 02:12:41,340
so we've got the wee thing going and

3257
02:12:45,770 --> 02:12:43,020
then before we know it the things are

3258
02:12:47,570 --> 02:12:45,780
going to swell yeah absolutely can I

3259
02:12:49,790 --> 02:12:47,580
just before we start rapping can I just

3260
02:12:52,010 --> 02:12:49,800
ask Elena about this cat picture behind

3261
02:12:53,169 --> 02:12:52,020
her on the wall because it has hands am

3262
02:12:59,930 --> 02:12:53,179
I correct

3263
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:03,530
oh yeah

3264
02:13:09,229 --> 02:13:06,410
I would imagine uh junglian psychologist

3265
02:13:12,410 --> 02:13:09,239
would have a Shady with that

3266
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:12,420
oh yeah complex very complex that's

3267
02:13:16,430 --> 02:13:14,159
another day that's another conversation

3268
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:16,440
I'm sorry oh Vinny's moving for a close

3269
02:13:21,169 --> 02:13:19,440
let's let's get on I'm going for it we

3270
02:13:22,970 --> 02:13:21,179
can do we can do the Instagram live on

3271
02:13:26,450 --> 02:13:22,980
this all day and night but like no no no

3272
02:13:29,450 --> 02:13:26,460
no no we can do it you can I'm conscious

3273
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:29,460
of my my audience like so thank you

3274
02:13:34,010 --> 02:13:31,679
thank you so much Ashley yeah tell me

3275
02:13:35,450 --> 02:13:34,020
dude everybody come on like every time

3276
02:13:38,149 --> 02:13:35,460
you come on man one year down the line

3277
02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:38,159
you kill it man uh you always make it

3278
02:13:42,589 --> 02:13:40,079
more exciting for me because

3279
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,599
you know me I'm excited no matter what

3280
02:13:48,350 --> 02:13:45,119
and I'm sure you're going to capture so

3281
02:13:50,270 --> 02:13:48,360
much b-roll of me it's unreal but you're

3282
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:50,280
actually seeing and I know what you mean

3283
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:52,560
I know what you and it is this love

3284
02:13:56,689 --> 02:13:54,239
having you on ash because you talk so

3285
02:13:59,870 --> 02:13:56,699
long that I can just say it back and let

3286
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:59,880
it roll no no no I know that I know that

3287
02:14:03,649 --> 02:14:01,679
it's nothing for you to talk about did

3288
02:14:04,729 --> 02:14:03,659
you hear what I said though do you

3289
02:14:10,129 --> 02:14:04,739
remember you're gonna have so much

3290
02:14:13,250 --> 02:14:10,139
b-roll for season two oh yeah

3291
02:14:15,790 --> 02:14:13,260
and the audience all quite good isn't it

3292
02:14:18,890 --> 02:14:15,800
you did the order is incredible I mean

3293
02:14:20,990 --> 02:14:18,900
yeah no I I've got I could I could keep

3294
02:14:23,149 --> 02:14:21,000
talking this is the thing I could keep

3295
02:14:24,890 --> 02:14:23,159
talking this was the conversation that I

3296
02:14:26,930 --> 02:14:24,900
wanted to have before Christmas because

3297
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:26,940
I knew it would be between friends it

3298
02:14:30,890 --> 02:14:28,320
would be the most casual conversation

3299
02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:30,900
I've had all year but it probably would

3300
02:14:35,149 --> 02:14:33,119
be the most important conversation that

3301
02:14:39,290 --> 02:14:35,159
I would have all year because it

3302
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:39,300
pushes me and Dan Ashley Elena and all

3303
02:14:43,370 --> 02:14:42,000
of our team into 2023 for some of the

3304
02:14:46,010 --> 02:14:43,380
most important work that we're going to

3305
02:14:49,189 --> 02:14:46,020
be doing and so I love the fact that we

3306
02:14:51,530 --> 02:14:49,199
can go from casual to serious and have a

3307
02:15:15,370 --> 02:14:51,540
good time about it when was the serious

3308
02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:19,310
let's take this to a more casual uh

3309
02:15:25,790 --> 02:15:23,119
place on Instagram in like 10-15 minutes

3310
02:15:27,709 --> 02:15:25,800
actually there as well can you see it at

3311
02:15:29,050 --> 02:15:27,719
night operations are starting soon look

3312
02:15:32,569 --> 02:15:29,060
at that

3313
02:15:34,370 --> 02:15:32,579
right there ready for going dude this is

3314
02:15:37,129 --> 02:15:34,380
the thing man Ashley's there day in day

3315
02:15:41,450 --> 02:15:37,139
out look at this he is

3316
02:15:44,030 --> 02:15:41,460
dude is he gonna streak don't streak

3317
02:15:45,790 --> 02:15:44,040
I'll be still ready to go traditionally

3318
02:15:50,149 --> 02:15:45,800
tradition yes

3319
02:15:52,910 --> 02:15:50,159
the dude's built a UAP Lodge on site a

3320
02:15:55,609 --> 02:15:52,920
house we built this two-bedroomed

3321
02:16:01,870 --> 02:15:55,619
non-suite center with the last wind

3322
02:16:06,050 --> 02:16:04,370
yeah right have you just have you just

3323
02:16:07,729 --> 02:16:06,060
put a filter on your well they taste

3324
02:16:09,530 --> 02:16:07,739
good no Vinnie this is what I'm saying

3325
02:16:11,089 --> 02:16:09,540
that the sunset is incredible this is

3326
02:16:13,689 --> 02:16:11,099
what we're filming look at it let me

3327
02:16:17,470 --> 02:16:13,699
open the door I've been there

3328
02:16:19,569 --> 02:16:17,480
show you guys makes good just in case

3329
02:16:23,169 --> 02:16:19,579
yeah

3330
02:16:26,450 --> 02:16:23,179
we've got Colombia down here

3331
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:26,460
yeah very dark hang on you're the thing

3332
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:27,840
you've seen you look like a mine but

3333
02:16:34,009 --> 02:16:30,960
we're pretty Global right now yeah we

3334
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:34,019
are oh man cross-cultural perspective I

3335
02:16:38,509 --> 02:16:36,000
love it oh yeah that is a cross-cultural

3336
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:38,519
perspective everyone everyone in the

3337
02:16:43,790 --> 02:16:40,800
chat's feeling good right now red panda

3338
02:16:45,770 --> 02:16:43,800
koala says feeling good about 2023. uh

3339
02:16:47,389 --> 02:16:45,780
ever one in the chat thank you so much

3340
02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:47,399
we are going to jump over to Instagram

3341
02:16:51,530 --> 02:16:49,679
live so go and follow me on Instagram

3342
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:51,540
disclosure team we're going to one more

3343
02:16:56,990 --> 02:16:54,000
thing live I've got one more thing

3344
02:16:57,849 --> 02:16:57,000
come on can you wait can you not you

3345
02:17:00,889 --> 02:16:57,859
think

3346
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:00,899
Instagram live well obviously I can't or

3347
02:17:04,250 --> 02:17:02,010
I wouldn't have interrupted

3348
02:17:06,169 --> 02:17:04,260
[Laughter]

3349
02:17:07,849 --> 02:17:06,179
interrupting

3350
02:17:10,009 --> 02:17:07,859
this better be good [\h__\h]

3351
02:17:12,410 --> 02:17:10,019
I wanted to personally thank everybody

3352
02:17:15,889 --> 02:17:12,420
who's spent dollars and bought the

3353
02:17:17,870 --> 02:17:15,899
season on Vimeo season one this is going

3354
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:17,880
to be published in the VOD Vimeo on

3355
02:17:22,429 --> 02:17:19,920
demand and it means that people might

3356
02:17:24,169 --> 02:17:22,439
there see this so thanks a lot everybody

3357
02:17:26,209 --> 02:17:24,179
who bought season one it was great and

3358
02:17:28,129 --> 02:17:26,219
we'll be sending you an email sometime

3359
02:17:29,929 --> 02:17:28,139
towards the spring they'll have a

3360
02:17:32,750 --> 02:17:29,939
discount for you to watch season two

3361
02:17:34,370 --> 02:17:32,760
from the team so that was it thank you

3362
02:17:36,290 --> 02:17:34,380
director

3363
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:36,300
can I ask you Ashley someone someone

3364
02:17:40,310 --> 02:17:37,679
asked me yesterday and it would be good

3365
02:17:41,750 --> 02:17:40,320
for you to answer here they said instead

3366
02:17:43,370 --> 02:17:41,760
of renting it am I going to be able to

3367
02:17:47,530 --> 02:17:43,380
buy this eventually because I'd like a

3368
02:17:50,030 --> 02:17:47,540
copy no no oh cool

3369
02:17:51,650 --> 02:17:50,040
wait I'll and I'll I'm gonna I'm

3370
02:17:53,570 --> 02:17:51,660
actually gonna close out my own show

3371
02:17:56,330 --> 02:17:53,580
right now to say for everybody

3372
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:56,340
interested who hasn't seen phenomenology

3373
02:18:02,410 --> 02:17:58,800
season one oh sorry I've got one more

3374
02:18:06,469 --> 02:18:02,420
description below we are now offering 25

3375
02:18:08,929 --> 02:18:06,479
off the whole season one go and check it

3376
02:18:10,150 --> 02:18:08,939
out it's it's

3377
02:18:12,530 --> 02:18:10,160
[\h__\h]

3378
02:18:14,030 --> 02:18:12,540
it's really good

3379
02:18:16,610 --> 02:18:14,040
um and now Ashley's just blowing us away

3380
02:18:18,530 --> 02:18:16,620
with these these nighttime scared oh man

3381
02:18:19,969 --> 02:18:18,540
wow you're gonna be like this is where

3382
02:18:22,990 --> 02:18:19,979
you're going to be sleeping where I am

3383
02:18:26,030 --> 02:18:23,000
filming right now at so at night

3384
02:18:27,950 --> 02:18:26,040
do you know what I love all of you I

3385
02:18:31,490 --> 02:18:27,960
love all you I have got the ultimate

3386
02:18:37,310 --> 02:18:31,500
finisher for this conversation and I'm

3387
02:18:41,049 --> 02:18:38,810
one more thing

3388
02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:41,059
DJ disclosure in the house

3389
02:18:55,070 --> 02:18:50,629
no way

3390
02:18:56,589 --> 02:18:55,080
well guys Walter of Nebraska I'm with my

3391
02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:56,599
sister and her family here in Houston

3392
02:19:01,730 --> 02:18:59,280
off and on with you guys great to see

3393
02:19:03,589 --> 02:19:01,740
you all hey nice one dude it's great to

3394
02:19:05,629 --> 02:19:03,599
see you old Walter this is Walter Payton

3395
02:19:07,370 --> 02:19:05,639
the another phenomenologist as you know

3396
02:19:09,410 --> 02:19:07,380
from the series

3397
02:19:13,129 --> 02:19:09,420
how a surprise this is like Christmas

3398
02:19:16,669 --> 02:19:14,990
guys this is good from what I hear this

3399
02:19:19,730 --> 02:19:16,679
is going to be a great time I've been in

3400
02:19:21,049 --> 02:19:19,740
and out of chat and yeah Ashley dude you

3401
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:21,059
know I say something like this every

3402
02:19:24,530 --> 02:19:23,040
time but you have done a great job in

3403
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,540
getting us access to a lot of these

3404
02:19:28,610 --> 02:19:26,399
sites and I can't tell you how much how

3405
02:19:30,770 --> 02:19:28,620
humbled I am just to gain access to some

3406
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:30,780
of these uh Native people's sites yeah

3407
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:32,880
hey there is one question I wanted to

3408
02:19:36,950 --> 02:19:34,800
ask is there going to be an opportunity

3409
02:19:37,730 --> 02:19:36,960
to do another ceremony like you did

3410
02:19:39,530 --> 02:19:37,740
before

3411
02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:39,540
we're doing it we're going to do it in

3412
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:42,000
the Sogo muscle Temple of the Sun up

3413
02:19:47,450 --> 02:19:44,399
north and if not we're going to be with

3414
02:19:49,969 --> 02:19:47,460
candel at guadavita so

3415
02:19:51,590 --> 02:19:49,979
um they do these ceremonies open here as

3416
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:51,600
well so they'll probably do something on

3417
02:19:56,710 --> 02:19:53,760
the banks of guadavita a ceremony with

3418
02:19:59,330 --> 02:19:56,720
the tobacco ritual and yeah

3419
02:20:00,830 --> 02:19:59,340
you like the old ritual ceremonies don't

3420
02:20:17,950 --> 02:20:00,840
it's like another world isn't it Walter

3421
02:20:22,070 --> 02:20:20,389
I'm in Houston actually Houston Texas

3422
02:20:25,490 --> 02:20:22,080
visiting my sister and her family for

3423
02:20:28,670 --> 02:20:27,050
oh well that's great to see you thanks

3424
02:20:29,750 --> 02:20:28,680
for jumping on Walter delighted with

3425
02:20:31,730 --> 02:20:29,760
that

3426
02:20:33,710 --> 02:20:31,740
you guys take care hey Vinnie keep it

3427
02:20:37,070 --> 02:20:33,720
real man everybody else take care and

3428
02:20:40,010 --> 02:20:37,080
we'll talk later well we will guys thank

3429
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:40,020
you so much thank you to Ashley Cowie

3430
02:20:44,450 --> 02:20:42,960
and all the team thank you so much we're

3431
02:20:47,389 --> 02:20:44,460
going to jump over to Instagram right

3432
02:20:49,130 --> 02:20:47,399
now if you're live and uh we'll see you